gobulls83 Posted January 2, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 92 Content Count: 3,475 Reputation: 95 Days Won: 7 Joined: 02/14/2006 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Huge win for UCF tonight. Beat up on the Big12 Champion in a BCS bowl. If they do want that Florida footprint, I don't see any reason not to take UCF. Our 4 wins over UCF are ancient history now. Our 5k that shows up to our home games..with the faded Bucs logo on the field.. to watch us get trounced by the likes of Memphis and McNeese State won't have any marquee conference knocking at out door. Next year isn't looking all that great for us either, and we have a mostly unproven HC who we are stuck with, thanks to Skippy's undeserved extension. Funny that just a few years ago we broke off the rivalry with UCF to move on to bigger and better things. The answer is, neither looks at all attractive to the Big XII. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TherapyBull Posted January 2, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 38 Content Count: 197 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/26/2011 Share Posted January 2, 2014 The answer to the OP question is USF looks better. From facilities to television market to academics we are the more desirable school. Honestly these threads are getting more and more ridiculous. When a team has a good season in the history of the NCAA it has never led to them being the reason to joining a better conference. I think sometimes we may need to look at this objectively, clearly these conference shuffling talks revolve around football. As for facilities UCF has an OCS which already has plans to expand to 58K, and an indoor practice facility. Both items we all agree USF eventually needs. A facade can be placed around brighthouse and their OCS will look just like Florida State.Television market, Tampa has the lead however its not leaps and bounds. A good stat would be to measure what percentage in the market follow other teams, presumably most in both markets will be following UF and FSU. If UCF continues to have success they will garner a higher share in their market and close the gap of our larger size in general.Academics are also a toss up, USF has more research, but UCF does a much better job graduating their students.Both schools would be a great addition to a conference, but taking one without the other and going after another school from a different state might also be the better option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulls On Parade Posted January 2, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 23 Content Count: 10,201 Reputation: 1,714 Days Won: 2 Joined: 10/02/2005 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Congrats to ucf they beat a good team. Usf will be back give cwt some time the guy is a great recruiter with a terrible team excited how great he can recruit with a good team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted January 2, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted January 2, 2014 he wasnt a great recruiter last year this year remains to be seen \too me the i4 corridor is a no brainer it is so attactive!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldenbuc Posted January 2, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 158 Content Count: 711 Reputation: 18 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/19/2002 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Reminder, UCF had Culpepper and that did nothing for them. We need to worry about us, not another team's Cinderella season. Go ZBULLS !!! Exactly! Whatever UCF did in the Fiesta bowl doesn't have any affect on USF whatsoever. They won, good for them. In 2 years Bortles will be gone, O'leary may be retired and who knows what the on the field team will look like. People just don't seem to get it. Conferences don't look solely at on the field performance. Especially, not a one year, best ever performance. How UCF fans traveled to their biggest game ever and ratings for the game are more important to conference realignment. Their are a lot more factors that go into a big decision than one good year. According to ESPN.... The Fiesta Bowl garnered a 7.1 overnight rating for Central Florida upending Baylor 52-42, up nine percent from the 2013 Orange Bowl, which aired in the corresponding day/time slot (6.5, Florida State defeating Northern Illinois 31-10). Orlando led all markets with a 17.4, the highest bowl overnight rating ever for an ESPN network in the market. http://espnmediazone.com/us/press-releases/2014/01/double-digit-increase-for-rose-fiesta-bowls-combined-viewership/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted January 2, 2014 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,737 Reputation: 10,962 Days Won: 425 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Reminder, UCF had Culpepper and that did nothing for them. We need to worry about us, not another team's Cinderella season. Go ZBULLS !!! Exactly! Whatever UCF did in the Fiesta bowl doesn't have any affect on USF whatsoever. They won, good for them. In 2 years Bortles will be gone, O'leary may be retired and who knows what the on the field team will look like. People just don't seem to get it. Conferences don't look solely at on the field performance. Especially, not a one year, best ever performance. How UCF fans traveled to their biggest game ever and ratings for the game are more important to conference realignment. Their are a lot more factors that go into a big decision than one good year. According to ESPN.... The Fiesta Bowl garnered a 7.1 overnight rating for Central Florida upending Baylor 52-42, up nine percent from the 2013 Orange Bowl, which aired in the corresponding day/time slot (6.5, Florida State defeating Northern Illinois 31-10). Orlando led all markets with a 17.4, the highest bowl overnight rating ever for an ESPN network in the market. http://espnmediazone.com/us/press-releases/2014/01/double-digit-increase-for-rose-fiesta-bowls-combined-viewership/ You do understand that those big bold letters were talking only about Orlando, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonb56 Posted January 2, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 347 Content Count: 1,867 Reputation: 202 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/13/2003 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Reminder, UCF had Culpepper and that did nothing for them. We need to worry about us, not another team's Cinderella season. Go ZBULLS !!! Exactly! Whatever UCF did in the Fiesta bowl doesn't have any affect on USF whatsoever. They won, good for them. In 2 years Bortles will be gone, O'leary may be retired and who knows what the on the field team will look like. People just don't seem to get it. Conferences don't look solely at on the field performance. Especially, not a one year, best ever performance. How UCF fans traveled to their biggest game ever and ratings for the game are more important to conference realignment. Their are a lot more factors that go into a big decision than one good year. According to ESPN.... The Fiesta Bowl garnered a 7.1 overnight rating for Central Florida upending Baylor 52-42, up nine percent from the 2013 Orange Bowl, which aired in the corresponding day/time slot (6.5, Florida State defeating Northern Illinois 31-10). Orlando led all markets with a 17.4, the highest bowl overnight rating ever for an ESPN network in the market. http://espnmediazone.com/us/press-releases/2014/01/double-digit-increase-for-rose-fiesta-bowls-combined-viewership/ From a positive USF perspective, this is a strong sign of the TV power both schools could bring... Also bods well for our current conference on the next round of negotiations... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldenbuc Posted January 2, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 158 Content Count: 711 Reputation: 18 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/19/2002 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Reminder, UCF had Culpepper and that did nothing for them. We need to worry about us, not another team's Cinderella season. Go ZBULLS !!! Exactly! Whatever UCF did in the Fiesta bowl doesn't have any affect on USF whatsoever. They won, good for them. In 2 years Bortles will be gone, O'leary may be retired and who knows what the on the field team will look like. People just don't seem to get it. Conferences don't look solely at on the field performance. Especially, not a one year, best ever performance. How UCF fans traveled to their biggest game ever and ratings for the game are more important to conference realignment. Their are a lot more factors that go into a big decision than one good year. According to ESPN.... The Fiesta Bowl garnered a 7.1 overnight rating for Central Florida upending Baylor 52-42, up nine percent from the 2013 Orange Bowl, which aired in the corresponding day/time slot (6.5, Florida State defeating Northern Illinois 31-10). Orlando led all markets with a 17.4, the highest bowl overnight rating ever for an ESPN network in the market. http://espnmediazone.com/us/press-releases/2014/01/double-digit-increase-for-rose-fiesta-bowls-combined-viewership/ You do understand that those big bold letters were talking only about Orlando, right? Yes. Kind of the whole point of a TV Market bringing in ratings. When they're looking at a TV Market that a team is in, this kind of scale is a huge factor. Had USF been in the same boat, I'm sure the Tampa TV market would have tuned in, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted January 2, 2014 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,089 Reputation: 10,859 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted January 2, 2014 So is that news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogma Posted January 2, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 303 Content Count: 5,550 Reputation: 866 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/07/2009 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Reminder, UCF had Culpepper and that did nothing for them. We need to worry about us, not another team's Cinderella season. Go ZBULLS !!! Exactly! Whatever UCF did in the Fiesta bowl doesn't have any affect on USF whatsoever. They won, good for them. In 2 years Bortles will be gone, O'leary may be retired and who knows what the on the field team will look like. People just don't seem to get it. Conferences don't look solely at on the field performance. Especially, not a one year, best ever performance. How UCF fans traveled to their biggest game ever and ratings for the game are more important to conference realignment. Their are a lot more factors that go into a big decision than one good year. According to ESPN.... The Fiesta Bowl garnered a 7.1 overnight rating for Central Florida upending Baylor 52-42, up nine percent from the 2013 Orange Bowl, which aired in the corresponding day/time slot (6.5, Florida State defeating Northern Illinois 31-10). Orlando led all markets with a 17.4, the highest bowl overnight rating ever for an ESPN network in the market. http://espnmediazone.com/us/press-releases/2014/01/double-digit-increase-for-rose-fiesta-bowls-combined-viewership/ You do understand that those big bold letters were talking only about Orlando, right? Yes. Kind of the whole point of a TV Market bringing in ratings. When they're looking at a TV Market that a team is in, this kind of scale is a huge factor. Had USF been in the same boat, I'm sure the Tampa TV market would have tuned in, as well. Ahh.. good ol' deceptive marketing try. Obviously you made sure not to emphasize the Orlando portion... to throw people off. Because, basically ... no s*** that a home team would bring its biggest audience if its their biggest/most important game/appearance in their history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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