Bull94 Posted September 8, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 22 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Just let Bench play next week.... Yeah. Ruin him early, throw him in the fire. Don't let him get comfortable in the system. Bet it will help with recruiting too. Come to USF, learn a dozen plays, start at QB. I think Taggart would know if he would "ruin" him or not by starting him ... and kids would love to be given the starting job right out of high school so you're recruiting slam is off base. I'd say give him the start if CWT is comfortable with that and see how he does. It would be a start for each of them before conference play ... way off base. true competitors want to start day one. Why do think White isn't starting now then? because he isn't as good an option as eveld or floyd unfortunately?? maybe he isn't any good. I don't know. again I'm not advocating he START just if they think he is good enough to start next year that they burn the red shirt and get him some much needed expereince against some of the lesser teams we play. bring him in for 4 or 5 series against bad defenses. bring him along slowly. he isn't learning **** playing 4th string QB. You don't burn a redshirt year unless he is your guy and you plan on him having a play a MAJOR role on your team. And to be quite honest, if he isn't any better than the three guys we have already then he shouldn't sniff the field. He isn't going to play, get over it. Move on. Tebow had 33 pass attempts his true freshman year. Urban Meyer knew Leak was a senior and he wanted Tebow to have game experience before throwing him to the wolves. smart coaches prepare for the future. they get kids reps at every position so they are ready when the seniors move on. I hope he has a MAJOR role on our team next year so I believe the experience is more valuable than saving him for 2018. Can everyone please stop comparing White to Tebow, Manziel, Manning, Jesus, and the guy that invented the internet porn! If he is good enough to play he would be playing. I don't want to see him on the field this year if he can't beat out the two other bozo's and the guy that apparently threw the greatest incomplete pass in USF history. no one is comparing him to these guys. I'm comparing the situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCBull Posted September 8, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 112 Content Count: 8,159 Reputation: 864 Days Won: 8 Joined: 09/25/2008 Share Posted September 8, 2013 I think Floyd looked a lot worse than Eveld. Absolutely, 100% agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted September 8, 2013 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,711 Reputation: 10,930 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted September 8, 2013 I think Floyd looked a lot worse than Eveld. Just some kind of weird gut feeling I've had .... Feel we've seen Eveld's best, which just doesn't impress me that much, but haven't seen Floyd's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowdown Posted September 8, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 5 Content Count: 993 Reputation: 121 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/05/2007 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Grothe came in to relieve julmiste after he got injured. Grothe straight owned FWIW, Grothe looked about as bad against Dantonio's Cinci team in 2006 as Eveld looked against Dantonio's MSU team yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RG Posted September 8, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 21 Content Count: 714 Reputation: 36 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/11/2007 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Agreed. I think Floyd looked a lot worse than Eveld. Just some kind of weird gut feeling I've had .... Feel we've seen Eveld's best, which just doesn't impress me that much, but haven't seen Floyd's. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South_Florida_Flip Posted September 8, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 99 Content Count: 10,565 Reputation: 93 Days Won: 7 Joined: 05/14/2005 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Welch dropped two passes. One sure TD from Bench. Bench looked 5000x more confident. Bench threw one pass and it wasn't a pretty one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RG Posted September 8, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 21 Content Count: 714 Reputation: 36 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/11/2007 Share Posted September 8, 2013 no they don't. they red shirt to build depth at a position. notice every position of need that true freshman play. including QB for most programs. CAL is starting a true freshman in a much more difficult system. Penn State is starting a true freshman. red shirts are intended for injuries. grothe only played 3 years and a couple of games because we burned his red shirt for a non injury reason. he could have used that red shirt and played a full 4 years. You do realize that if Grothe didn't redshirt his freshman year, his playing eligibility would of ended the year before he got hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick1ru2 Posted September 8, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 555 Content Count: 14,415 Reputation: 444 Days Won: 13 Joined: 07/25/2008 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Anyone stop to think that maybe they want to groom White for the future? He's adapting to the speed of college football and he's also learning the playbook. Give the kid a year to do both so when he steps on the field, he's well prepared. Your 3 options this year are Bench, Eveld, and Floyd. Floyd is done, so it's really only Eveld and Bench. If Bench knew or gets to know the playbook as well as Eveld, he will play and probably be starting by conference play. They planned on using Bench in situational packages yesterday, I'm guessing we will see more of that in the near future. And who just compared Mike White to Hackenburg?? LOL GTFO with that analogy. If we had #1 rated QB out of HS, he'd be starting too. I don't think Floyd is done ... He didn't look that much worse than Eveld and is more mobile ... but would still like to Bench get a start. Yeah, I was thinking the same. IF he got comfortable and in grove, he was throwing the deep ball at the right guy, just too far. He might be the best of the lot after some serious work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted September 8, 2013 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,711 Reputation: 10,930 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Just let Bench play next week.... Yeah. Ruin him early, throw him in the fire. Don't let him get comfortable in the system. Bet it will help with recruiting too. Come to USF, learn a dozen plays, start at QB. I think Taggart would know if he would "ruin" him or not by starting him ... and kids would love to be given the starting job right out of high school so you're recruiting slam is off base. I'd say give him the start if CWT is comfortable with that and see how he does. It would be a start for each of them before conference play ... way off base. true competitors want to start day one. Why do think White isn't starting now then? because he isn't as good an option as eveld or floyd unfortunately?? maybe he isn't any good. I don't know. again I'm not advocating he START just if they think he is good enough to start next year that they burn the red shirt and get him some much needed expereince against some of the lesser teams we play. bring him in for 4 or 5 series against bad defenses. bring him along slowly. he isn't learning **** playing 4th string QB. You don't burn a redshirt year unless he is your guy and you plan on him having a play a MAJOR role on your team. And to be quite honest, if he isn't any better than the three guys we have already then he shouldn't sniff the field. He isn't going to play, get over it. Move on. Tebow had 33 pass attempts his true freshman year. Urban Meyer knew Leak was a senior and he wanted Tebow to have game experience before throwing him to the wolves. smart coaches prepare for the future. they get kids reps at every position so they are ready when the seniors move on. I hope he has a MAJOR role on our team next year so I believe the experience is more valuable than saving him for 2018. Can everyone please stop comparing White to Tebow, Manziel, Manning, Jesus, and the guy that invented the internet porn! If he is good enough to play he would be playing. I don't want to see him on the field this year if he can't beat out the two other bozo's and the guy that apparently threw the greatest incomplete pass in USF history. no one is comparing him to these guys. I'm comparing the situations. But none of those situations are the same .... Not sure how many ways that can be expressed. Tebow was a fullback playing qb his first year. Manziel didn't play a lick his freshman year. Manning didn't appear to play a down before being thrown into the fire his freshman year .... How can the situations be compared? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who'sYourData? Posted September 9, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 410 Content Count: 19,525 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 24 Joined: 09/01/2006 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Welch dropped two passes. One sure TD from Bench. Bench looked 5000x more confident. Bench threw one pass and it wasn't a pretty one. By all means, don't ever let him play again based on that one pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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