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So if Harbaugh magic is real and can turn BJ Daniels into a good player...

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Just goes to show you how much coaching matters.  Just think how good we could of been with say Charlie Strong at the helm or CWT in earlier.  Talented players mean nothing if they are not put in the right place to succeed.  Look at UL, ND, Michigan, Stanford, NW, Miami, etc.  All those teams went through bad coaching hires, got rid of them, then hired the guy to lead them.  Those teams always had talented players but no one to "coach" them up.  Another example is FSU the last few years with bobby at the helm.  They had top 10 recruiting classes every year playing in the ACC and did crap.  Bobby retires (forced out) and now they are competing for ACC Championships and BCS bowls.  COACHING MATTERS!

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I disliked BJ as much as anybody, but this preseason has made it more apparent Skip simply didn't know how to use him. I'm glad BJ is slowly forcing me to eat every negative word I ever said about him

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Just goes to show you how much coaching matters.  Just think how good we could of been with say Charlie Strong at the helm or CWT in earlier.  Talented players mean nothing if they are not put in the

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If Matt Floyd turns into Peyton Manning, you can basically punch our ticket to the Big 12. 

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In addition to the right coaching it helps to have a decent surrounding cast. BJ never had a full corp of receivers or backs to take some of the pressure off or even to have a reliable safety valve.

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Matt Floyd becomes the next Peyton Manning?

 

If Matt Floyd turns into Peyton Manning, you can basically punch our ticket to the Big 12. 

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In addition to the right coaching it helps to have a decent surrounding cast. BJ never had a full corp of receivers or backs to take some of the pressure off or even to have a reliable safety valve.

 

All i know is you prob. cant name a single player in the Holtz New Error that didnt regress in development.  Not a 1 player made any sort of progression as a player.  That all on coaching.  There was tons of talent on the team offensively and defensively.  Offensively - BJ (NFL Backup now), Lamar, Shaw, Andre Davis, T-Rex, Dunkly, Griffin, Price, McFarland, Landi, etc... Def - Grissom, Giddens, Chandler, Watson, Forte, Barrington, Lattimore, Kavon, Jenkins, Joyce, Lejiste, etc

 

The cupboard wasnt bare.  we had the one season where our Wr's were super light but after that we were fine. 

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In addition to the right coaching it helps to have a decent surrounding cast. BJ never had a full corp of receivers or backs to take some of the pressure off or even to have a reliable safety valve.

 

All i know is you prob. cant name a single player in the Holtz New Error that didnt regress in development.  Not a 1 player made any sort of progression as a player.  That all on coaching.  There was tons of talent on the team offensively and defensively.  Offensively - BJ (NFL Backup now), Lamar, Shaw, Andre Davis, T-Rex, Dunkly, Griffin, Price, McFarland, Landi, etc... Def - Grissom, Giddens, Chandler, Watson, Forte, Barrington, Lattimore, Kavon, Jenkins, Joyce, Lejiste, etc

 

The cupboard wasnt bare.  we had the one season where our Wr's were super light but after that we were fine. 

 

it was never the talent that lacked. it was the development and the scheme. that's why both corners from one of the worst pass defenses in D-1 were invited to camp or drafted to the NFL. plus a QB that was used wrong for 3 years looks like he could catch on as our first ever QB in the NFL.

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Skip was a joke

 

BJ would have been just fine under Jim but he wasn't a drop back guy. In the niners system, Kap has options to make moves. BJ will be fine if he isnt pigeon holed into a pure dorp back passer.

 

If he makes the team I see him getting on field as return man, RB, WR utility guy not QB.

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Skip was a joke

 

BJ would have been just fine under Jim but he wasn't a drop back guy. In the niners system, Kap has options to make moves. BJ will be fine if he isnt pigeon holed into a pure dorp back passer.

 

If he makes the team I see him getting on field as return man, RB, WR utility guy not QB.

Leavitt knew how to use him. he ran him as much as passed with him. BJ was top 30 rated passer his redshirt freshman year under Leavitt because he didn't expect him to pass 33 times per game. he used his strong arm to strecth defenses and open them up for run. skip liked to call low percentage high risk plays. short tough throws that didn't net a lot of yardage even if completed.

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Bull94 welcome back. It has been a while. Go check out the Floyd named starter for some more BJ bashing

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Looks like if BJ makes the team it will be as a qb. Therefore he won't see the field unless Kap gets injured.

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Willie T,

Looks like if BJ makes the team it will be as a qb. Therefore he won't see the field unless Kap gets injured.

 

 

my point is that he'll  make the team at QB but I see him contributing in other ways.

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