Hem Posted June 4, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 64 Content Count: 4,663 Reputation: 401 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/24/2012 Share Posted June 4, 2013 It's the total package, not any single statistic, that matters. And for most of the power brokers, WE don't matter. Yea those total packages that Rutgers and Maryland had really tipped the scales Market drives expansion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDYZR Posted June 4, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 486 Content Count: 12,475 Reputation: 2,855 Days Won: 25 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted June 4, 2013 "decades of tradition" > attendance. I wonder what is the youngest football program mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted June 4, 2013 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,738 Reputation: 10,964 Days Won: 425 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted June 4, 2013 "decades of tradition" > attendance. I wonder what is the youngest football program mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAM37 Posted June 4, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 130 Content Count: 1,867 Reputation: 218 Days Won: 2 Joined: 08/07/2003 Share Posted June 4, 2013 I love USF as much as the next guy, but at some point we have to accept our current place in the world and work to improve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDYZR Posted June 4, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 486 Content Count: 12,475 Reputation: 2,855 Days Won: 25 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted June 4, 2013 What a joke. To think that there is something about these programs that justifies their difference in allocation of resources over USF is egregious. Baylor - 1898 Boston College - 1892 Duke - 1930 Georgia Tech - 1892 Kansas - 1890 Maryland - 1898 Northwestern - 1876 Oregon State - 1890 Pitt - 1890 Purdue - 1887 Stanford - 1891 Syracuse - 1889 Vanderbilt - 1890 Wake Forest - 1888 Washington State - 1894 Here is a link of NCAA attendance figures. If you think our 2012 numbers are distorted by the FSU game you're wrong, as ALL these programs have big games on their schedules, AND we had very similar attendance in 2011 (higher in fact). Bottom line: anyone that tells you there's something more powerful about the power 5 is wrong. There are programs there that are scraping the bottom of the barrel in terms of attendance and competition. The only leg up some have is decades of tradition, and for us that's a matter of time. In an average year, USF would go at least .500 against these teams and put more fans in the stadium in the process. Other notable programs that had less bodies in seats than USF in 2012: Boise State Cincinnati Connecticut The Tin Men I guess Duke is the youngest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullFan98 Posted June 4, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 258 Content Count: 7,780 Reputation: 328 Days Won: 7 Joined: 08/13/2010 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Surprised to see some names on that list. Our attendance has been awful, but for some of those schools to be on the list makes me feel a little better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breedwell Posted June 4, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 8 Content Count: 863 Reputation: 96 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/20/2012 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Stanford's numbers are the most surprising. They've had a pretty nationally relevant team for a few seasons in a row now. I mean they had a nasty streak in the early 2000's, but they've only had 1-3 losses the past 3-4 seasons now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raetus Posted June 6, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 9 Content Count: 1,037 Reputation: 309 Days Won: 12 Joined: 01/31/2010 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Stanford's numbers are the most surprising. They've had a pretty nationally relevant team for a few seasons in a row now. I mean they had a nasty streak in the early 2000's, but they've only had 1-3 losses the past 3-4 seasons now. I know; it's like their students are too busy curing cancer or something equally silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisa el Toro Posted June 6, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 132 Content Count: 10,380 Reputation: 1,058 Days Won: 18 Joined: 08/11/2003 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Let's not forget that we also had an unsually favorable home schedule in 2012, which probably gave us a bump in attendence. FSU at Ray Jay put butts in seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted June 7, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 197 Content Count: 10,251 Reputation: 270 Days Won: 14 Joined: 08/16/2005 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Let's not forget that we also had an unsually favorable home schedule in 2012, which probably gave us a bump in attendence. FSU at Ray Jay put butts in seats. and that the last two games of the year struggled to get 25,000 actual bodies into the stadium. And that we have $75 season tickets. $10 seats. I'd venture to say most the programs listed don't offer those types of deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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