NewEnglandBull Posted November 28, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted November 28, 2012 fsu needs to leave acc before usf can join fsu will never be in a conference with usf miami must be drooling as they see total domination once again I agree, they hold the key to our invite to the ACC... they go, or we don't! Pray for more chaos, which if history tells us anything, more chaos is coming... Ill tell you what bothers me is the following quote from the ESPN article: The ACC also considered UConn and Cincinnati for membership. However, sources told ESPN the league only wanted Louisville because there is a sense among league presidents that the ACC can add more schools at a later date if the ACC lost any other schools. So by all accounts we are no closer than 3rd in line. So if another two schools get pulled from the ACC, UCONN an UC are next up. What if its FSU and Clemson? I see no guarantee we move up as the ACC will still have Miami. If FSU moves and we dont as part of that replacement, then its time to panic. We will never get invited to the ACC, and FSU will never leave the ACC... the only reason why Maryland left was because the owner of Under Armor, who is a Maryland Alum paid the $50 million dollar exit fee for them. So unless FSU has a huge money donor that is willing to pay for FSU to leave the ACC then I don't see it happening. Our only hope is the Big12. Maryland has paid nothing as this is going to be litigated. Under Armour has paid nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhambuc Posted November 28, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 165 Content Count: 2,233 Reputation: 224 Days Won: 6 Joined: 08/18/2011 Share Posted November 28, 2012 The ACC expects Louisville to be able to negotiate a deal to get out to be in the ACC by 2014 yet they think they can hold MD to 50 million and their exit fee? ACC you cant have it both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliable Source Posted November 28, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 731 Content Count: 10,367 Reputation: 170 Days Won: 40 Joined: 09/15/2008 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Time to go independent.No advantage to keeping FB in the NBE. No bowl tie- ins, no conference TV rights and absolutely no prestige by staying in it. I say we put together an independent TV contract, take bowl money where we can make it and figure out how to win. We will have a lot more cachet as an Indy team than we will as a member of our stinking FB conference. We got screwed because FSU, UM and UF all have more established presences in FL. We wouldn't be bringing a new market to anyone. UL picked the right time to win a few FB games, we picked the wrong time to lose a bunch of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who'sYourData? Posted November 28, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 410 Content Count: 19,525 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 24 Joined: 09/01/2006 Share Posted November 28, 2012 fsu needs to leave acc before usf can join fsu will never be in a conference with usf miami must be drooling as they see total domination once again I agree, they hold the key to our invite to the ACC... they go, or we don't! Pray for more chaos, which if history tells us anything, more chaos is coming... Ill tell you what bothers me is the following quote from the ESPN article: The ACC also considered UConn and Cincinnati for membership. However, sources told ESPN the league only wanted Louisville because there is a sense among league presidents that the ACC can add more schools at a later date if the ACC lost any other schools. So by all accounts we are no closer than 3rd in line. So if another two schools get pulled from the ACC, UCONN an UC are next up. What if its FSU and Clemson? I see no guarantee we move up as the ACC will still have Miami. If FSU moves and we dont as part of that replacement, then its time to panic. We will never get invited to the ACC, and FSU will never leave the ACC... the only reason why Maryland left was because the owner of Under Armor, who is a Maryland Alum paid the $50 million dollar exit fee for them. So unless FSU has a huge money donor that is willing to pay for FSU to leave the ACC then I don't see it happening. Our only hope is the Big12. FSU would easily make up that money and much more, the Big 12 gets a lot more TV money than the ACC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted November 28, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted November 28, 2012 The ACC expects Louisville to be able to negotiate a deal to get out to be in the ACC by 2014 yet they think they can hold MD to 50 million and their exit fee? ACC you cant have it both ways. No way Maryland pays $50 mil. Once that number is known look for other ACC teams to have wandering eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who'sYourData? Posted November 28, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 410 Content Count: 19,525 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 24 Joined: 09/01/2006 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Time to go independent.No advantage to keeping FB in the NBE. $5mil per year in TV rights vs $0mil per year in TV rights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
widerberg Posted November 28, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 12 Content Count: 959 Reputation: 136 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/21/2007 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Time to go independent.No advantage to keeping FB in the NBE. No bowl tie- ins, no conference TV rights and absolutely no prestige by staying in it. I say we put together an independent TV contract, take bowl money where we can make it and figure out how to win. We will have a lot more cachet as an Indy team than we will as a member of our stinking FB conference. We got screwed because FSU, UM and UF all have more established presences in FL. We wouldn't be bringing a new market to anyone. UL picked the right time to win a few FB games, we picked the wrong time to lose a bunch of them. TV negotiations are on hold, apparently, but bowl tie-ins (such as they are) are still there. TV negotiations are going to pick back up as soon as the dust settles as there's still money to be made. Just hard to negotiate when the musical conferences music is still playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mission9 Posted November 28, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 60 Content Count: 4,078 Reputation: 469 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/09/2003 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Maybe one of the public access channels can be coerced into showing the Big East Dumpster Fire games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cow Pie Posted November 28, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 423 Content Count: 7,693 Reputation: 35 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/04/2008 Share Posted November 28, 2012 fsu needs to leave acc before usf can join fsu will never be in a conference with usf miami must be drooling as they see total domination once again I agree, they hold the key to our invite to the ACC... they go, or we don't! Pray for more chaos, which if history tells us anything, more chaos is coming... Ill tell you what bothers me is the following quote from the ESPN article: The ACC also considered UConn and Cincinnati for membership. However, sources told ESPN the league only wanted Louisville because there is a sense among league presidents that the ACC can add more schools at a later date if the ACC lost any other schools. So by all accounts we are no closer than 3rd in line. So if another two schools get pulled from the ACC, UCONN an UC are next up. What if its FSU and Clemson? I see no guarantee we move up as the ACC will still have Miami. If FSU moves and we dont as part of that replacement, then its time to panic. We will never get invited to the ACC, and FSU will never leave the ACC... the only reason why Maryland left was because the owner of Under Armor, who is a Maryland Alum paid the $50 million dollar exit fee for them. So unless FSU has a huge money donor that is willing to pay for FSU to leave the ACC then I don't see it happening. Our only hope is the Big12. What are you talking about????? No he didnt. Maryland is going to fight to not have to pay it. Why didnt he step up and save their sports programs in the past that they have been cutting. http://www.bizjourna...c-exit-fee.html He will pay it in the end... the ACC unlike the Big East has a air tight exit clause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliable Source Posted November 28, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 731 Content Count: 10,367 Reputation: 170 Days Won: 40 Joined: 09/15/2008 Share Posted November 28, 2012 (edited) fsu needs to leave acc before usf can join fsu will never be in a conference with usf miami must be drooling as they see total domination once again I agree, they hold the key to our invite to the ACC... they go, or we don't! Pray for more chaos, which if history tells us anything, more chaos is coming... Ill tell you what bothers me is the following quote from the ESPN article: The ACC also considered UConn and Cincinnati for membership. However, sources told ESPN the league only wanted Louisville because there is a sense among league presidents that the ACC can add more schools at a later date if the ACC lost any other schools. So by all accounts we are no closer than 3rd in line. So if another two schools get pulled from the ACC, UCONN an UC are next up. What if its FSU and Clemson? I see no guarantee we move up as the ACC will still have Miami. If FSU moves and we dont as part of that replacement, then its time to panic. We will never get invited to the ACC, and FSU will never leave the ACC... the only reason why Maryland left was because the owner of Under Armor, who is a Maryland Alum paid the $50 million dollar exit fee for them. So unless FSU has a huge money donor that is willing to pay for FSU to leave the ACC then I don't see it happening. Our only hope is the Big12. What are you talking about????? No he didnt. Maryland is going to fight to not have to pay it. Why didnt he step up and save their sports programs in the past that they have been cutting. http://www.bizjourna...c-exit-fee.html He will pay it in the end... the ACC unlike the Big East has a air tight exit clause. There is no such thing as an air tight exit clause. Restriction of fair commerce will always enter into the picture. Same reason that employee non-compete contracts are seldom if not ever enforced. You can't keep someone from earning what they are worth on the open market no matter the "air-tight" clause. That is why the cases ALWAYS get settled. The restricted party gets out when they want and pays a reduced fee not to have be a party to protracted litigation. Keep in mind UMD didn't vote for this clause as a conference member(one of two incl. FSU) which will be another mitigating factor as well as the recent enactment by the league. Edited November 28, 2012 by Bullwinkle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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