hm101 Posted October 22, 2012 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 173 Content Count: 7,004 Reputation: 2,260 Days Won: 12 Joined: 06/11/2010 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I haven't been able to do a fact check on this but here's what the word on the street is: We have given up 12 fourth quarter leads in the last 3 years. Think about the implications of this: 1. That's TWO season's worth of bowl eligibility 2. That's an extra 4 wins on average over the last 3 seasons. (Conceptually, we'd be at 6-1 this year, 9-3 last year, and 11-1 the year before) 3. We blame Cosh for a lot of our trouble but he's only been here for half a season. 4. This is too significant of a pattern to point to "depth". We are "deeper" than many of these teams. You have to point to clock and game management and the will of the coach to drive the dagger in. This is absolutely alarming to me and probably the strongest argument I can think of for canning Holtz. This is not an anomaly or a trend; it's a problem. It's a failure. Again, I haven't fact checked this. But we all know fourth quarter blown leads are becoming the norm and I don't need a fact check to know that. Alarming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm101 Posted October 22, 2012 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 173 Content Count: 7,004 Reputation: 2,260 Days Won: 12 Joined: 06/11/2010 Author Share Posted October 22, 2012 This is what a coach that has a passion for winning looks like. (I couldn't care less about the folks up I75. Just happens to be a good example) They were up 21-6 at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullFan98 Posted October 22, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 258 Content Count: 7,780 Reputation: 328 Days Won: 7 Joined: 08/13/2010 Share Posted October 22, 2012 That's what I am talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltLiquorBull Posted October 22, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 96 Content Count: 4,078 Reputation: 1,389 Days Won: 14 Joined: 01/09/2006 Share Posted October 22, 2012 (edited) I agree. That stat is simply alarming. What's more...Face it, when we took the lead against UL Saturday in the late 4th quarter. How many of you KNEW our defense would let them come down the field and score the needed TD? I am a huge fan and a bulliever, but I must say that even though I was yelling and cheering for my defense, i KNEW what was going to happen. We see it EVERY WEEK. Get used to it. At this rate, we will lose to Syracuse in the last 3 minutes of the game, too. Edited October 22, 2012 by MaltLiquorBull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicanBull Posted October 22, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 38 Content Count: 760 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/07/2008 Share Posted October 22, 2012 The players know its going to happen as well. Thats the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltLiquorBull Posted October 22, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 96 Content Count: 4,078 Reputation: 1,389 Days Won: 14 Joined: 01/09/2006 Share Posted October 22, 2012 This is what a coach that has a passion for winning looks like. (I couldn't care less about the folks up I75. Just happens to be a good example) They were up 21-6 at this point. This is awesome. I love it! Not a gator fan either, but I just got totally pumped up by watching this 8 seconds of video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScienceBull Posted October 22, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 18 Content Count: 432 Reputation: 60 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/14/2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I agree. That stat is simply alarming. What's more...Face it, when we took the lead against UL Saturday in the late 4th quarter. How many of you KNEW our defense would let them come down the field and score the needed TD? I am a huge fan and a bulliever, but I must say that even though I was yelling and cheering for my defense, i KNEW what was going to happen. We see it EVERY WEEK. Get used to it. At this rate, we will lose to Syracuse in the last 3 minutes of the game, too. You know, the sad thing is, I watched the UL game expecting my team to lose. I was still holding onto hope that we would pull off the upset and get the win and start turning things around, but a much bigger part of me did not expect us to win. Then, as we were keeping it close and managed to get the lead late, the hope of an upset just grew and grew and I found myself getting more and more excited about the possible outcome. But then when I saw how much time UL had to drive down the field and get in the endzone, you're right, I just knew our defense would let them score. It's sad that the bigger part of me now expects to lose, rather than hoping to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gismo Posted October 22, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 417 Content Count: 9,688 Reputation: 1,237 Days Won: 8 Joined: 09/24/2009 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Defense. When the game is on the line we have none. I think it's a Holtz issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyBull Posted October 22, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 2,696 Content Count: 6,928 Reputation: 127 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/01/2002 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Why did we play in a "prevent" defense with a 4 point lead and 3 minutes to go aganist a red hot quaterback? When we got the ball back L'Ville blitzed every down aganist us. The difference is that L'ville played to win and we played to lose...... Holtz MUST go....... Cosh is just doing what Holtz tells him to do........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFBULL18 Posted October 22, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 20 Content Count: 213 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/23/2011 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Why did we play in a "prevent" defense with a 4 point lead and 3 minutes to go aganist a red hot quaterback? When we got the ball back L'Ville blitzed every down aganist us. The difference is that L'ville played to win and we played to lose...... Holtz MUST go....... Cosh is just doing what Holtz tells him to do........ agreed. but cosh was garbage when we hired him.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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