Jump to content

  • USF Bulls fans join us at The Bulls Pen

    It's simple, free and connects you to other South Florida Bulls fans!

  • Members do not see this ad, Register

Chairman of Board of Trustees Knows We're In Trouble

dh5158

By dh5158
in USF South Florida Bulls Athletics

 Share

Recommended Posts

pascobull Experienced

pascobull

Posted
  • Group:  Member
  • Topic Count:  5
  • Content Count:  848
  • Reputation:   226
  • Days Won:  1
  • Joined:  08/03/2011
Posted

I'm sure Ramil only intended Woulard to read that email. His comments cooled off quite a bit on Thursday. But I aggree with him. The situation is unacceptable and a change should be made if it continues. He should have waited a day before sending that to cool off first. I'm sure he regrets saying "disgusted".

Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • Replies 117
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Popular Posts

Plantation Pete
Plantation Pete

How does a 13 year old girl gloat and how do you know this? You must be a mushroom because you were fed ******** and kept in the dark. There was no crime and there was no cover up. I'll take th

swamprat
swamprat

Might want to read the full article. I wouldn't wave good-bye too hard. Not just yet anyway.

BullFan98
BullFan98

Good read. Thanks for sharing. I think everyone should read the entire article before jumping to conclusions. I am happy to hear that Mr. Ramil has so much passion for USF and is a fan of the footb

Skingraft Toro Magnifico

Skingraft

Posted
  • Group:  Member
  • Topic Count:  743
  • Content Count:  13,357
  • Reputation:   2,482
  • Days Won:  63
  • Joined:  12/11/2006
Posted

Not a fight picking point, but curious... Why 2 more games? That would give us 4 wins and that would show and decline from last year. Would he not at least have to win 3 more games to match last years record? Do you keep a guy who has gotten worse each year? Curious...

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Southshore26 Toro Magnifico

Southshore26

Posted
  • Group:  Moderator
  • Topic Count:  104
  • Content Count:  4,442
  • Reputation:   161
  • Days Won:  9
  • Joined:  09/30/2007
Posted

Don't get me wrong... I'm in full support of a change... I've just heard that 4 wins appears to be the bench mark... though no firm source... appears just to be the popular opinion.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Skingraft Toro Magnifico

Skingraft

Posted
  • Group:  Member
  • Topic Count:  743
  • Content Count:  13,357
  • Reputation:   2,482
  • Days Won:  63
  • Joined:  12/11/2006
Posted

See, there you go... makes sense... I was just curious ultimately...

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Southshore26 Toro Magnifico

Southshore26

Posted
  • Group:  Moderator
  • Topic Count:  104
  • Content Count:  4,442
  • Reputation:   161
  • Days Won:  9
  • Joined:  09/30/2007
Posted

I'm sure Ramil only intended Woulard to read that email. His comments cooled off quite a bit on Thursday. But I aggree with him. The situation is unacceptable and a change should be made if it continues. He should have waited a day before sending that to cool off first. I'm sure he regrets saying "disgusted".

If he only wanted DW to read it then why was it sent to Judy?

I agree... he probably didn't want it public... but I'm glad that the president of our BOT is that passionate about the success of the program.

I'm also going to be he doesn't regret it... He's known for being a straight shooter and that's what's gotten him to where he is today. He may gloss over it because it's out there now and he has to... but I'm betting his original feelings are the same.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Southshore26 Toro Magnifico

Southshore26

Posted
  • Group:  Moderator
  • Topic Count:  104
  • Content Count:  4,442
  • Reputation:   161
  • Days Won:  9
  • Joined:  09/30/2007
Posted

See, there you go... makes sense... I was just curious ultimately...

Hell no worries... Never want us to lose... but I just don't see us ever succeeding with Holtz running the team.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
MaltLiquorBull Toro Magnifico

MaltLiquorBull

Posted
  • Group:  Member
  • Topic Count:  96
  • Content Count:  4,077
  • Reputation:   1,388
  • Days Won:  14
  • Joined:  01/09/2006
Posted (edited)

Don't get me wrong... I'm in full support of a change... I've just heard that 4 wins appears to be the bench mark... though no firm source... appears just to be the popular opinion.

Based on this trend...

2013 need 3 wins

2014 need 2 wins

I'm joking of course, but I don't see why 4 should be the bench mark. Again, that's worse than last year and last year we were in last place and didn't make a bowl.

According to all the data, next year is a "rebuilding" year, so what will our expectations be then?

Edited by MaltLiquorBull
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Triple B Toro Magnifico

Triple B

Posted
  • Group:  Moderator
  • Topic Count:  1,615
  • Content Count:  74,639
  • Reputation:   10,877
  • Days Won:  424
  • Joined:  11/25/2005
Posted

"I don't coach football. I don't know what the answers are," Ramil said Thursday.

The answer is to open your check book and start paying SEC salaries Ramil and attract SEC coaches.

Our current coach is currently #35 in salary. I'm pretty sure that is above a good number of SEC coaches. Probably some good ones.

http://usatoday30.us...rise/51242232/1

may be a year old but 11 SEC schools are in top 20 of pay. we arent paying SEC dollars

we pay as much or more than ole miss, kentucky, tennessee, vandy, and arkansas. we pay as much or more than 37 current BCS teams.

http://www.coachesho...esContracts.htm

that arkansas contract is for an INTERIM COACH. kentucky and vandy? not sure if serious

so Tennessee is your only example. and if they fire Dooley that number will double to attract a high level coach

correct me if I'm wrong but i believe you said 11 of 12 in top 20. we're top 35 and if you go by old sec at 12 teams they only have 7 schools above us.

You're wrong. He said 11 SEC schools are in top 20 of pay, based on the year old figures he linked from USA Today, and he was correct.

I was listing the sec teams that pay as much or less than us. no disputing the facts. kentucky, vandy, arkansas, tennessee and ole miss currently pay as much or less than us

You're using the term "facts" pretty loosely there based on your source. Facts point to Kentucky being lower. Common sense says Vandy, and probably Ole Miss because of the new coach, are lower because of the circumstances but there are no "facts" to back that up since no figures have been officially released. You appear to be wrong about Tennessee because the USAToday list has Dickey at $2.3 million while your Coaches Hot Seat site has him at $1.9 but no documentation because, apparently, he's a New head coach, contract not released yet so I'm going with the USAToday site being closer to a fact. The Arkansas salary situation is too big of a ******* joke to even have to justify. So it's only 3 SEC programs that probably pay as much or less than us. So technically, we are paying an SEC salary, bottom quarter SEC salary, but SEC salary nonetheless.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
E.T. Toro Magnifico

E.T.

Posted
  • Group:  TBP Subscriber III
  • Topic Count:  4,749
  • Content Count:  37,657
  • Reputation:   2,361
  • Days Won:  29
  • Joined:  12/24/2001
Posted

I was happy when I read this yesterday

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Bull94 Toro Magnifico

Bull94

Posted
  • Group:  Member
  • Topic Count:  22
  • Content Count:  8,722
  • Reputation:   992
  • Days Won:  23
  • Joined:  02/02/2005
Posted

"I don't coach football. I don't know what the answers are," Ramil said Thursday.

The answer is to open your check book and start paying SEC salaries Ramil and attract SEC coaches.

Our current coach is currently #35 in salary. I'm pretty sure that is above a good number of SEC coaches. Probably some good ones.

http://usatoday30.us...rise/51242232/1

may be a year old but 11 SEC schools are in top 20 of pay. we arent paying SEC dollars

we pay as much or more than ole miss, kentucky, tennessee, vandy, and arkansas. we pay as much or more than 37 current BCS teams.

http://www.coachesho...esContracts.htm

that arkansas contract is for an INTERIM COACH. kentucky and vandy? not sure if serious

so Tennessee is your only example. and if they fire Dooley that number will double to attract a high level coach

correct me if I'm wrong but i believe you said 11 of 12 in top 20. we're top 35 and if you go by old sec at 12 teams they only have 7 schools above us.

You're wrong. He said 11 SEC schools are in top 20 of pay, based on the year old figures he linked from USA Today, and he was correct.

I was listing the sec teams that pay as much or less than us. no disputing the facts. kentucky, vandy, arkansas, tennessee and ole miss currently pay as much or less than us

You're using the term "facts" pretty loosely there based on your source. Facts point to Kentucky being lower. Common sense says Vandy, and probably Ole Miss because of the new coach, are lower because of the circumstances but there are no "facts" to back that up since no figures have been officially released. You appear to be wrong about Tennessee because the USAToday list has Dickey at $2.3 million while your Coaches Hot Seat site has him at $1.9 but no documentation because, apparently, he's a New head coach, contract not released yet so I'm going with the USAToday site being closer to a fact. The Arkansas salary situation is too big of a ******* joke to even have to justify. So it's only 3 SEC programs that probably pay as much or less than us. So technically, we are paying an SEC salary, bottom quarter SEC salary, but SEC salary nonetheless.

not sure what bobby petrino and houston nutt's salary have to do with this year. both schools currently pay less.

greg schiano is still on that usa today list.

skip makes $300k more now than he did then.

we pay a competitive salary regardless of where it ranks compared to sec schools. we are not competing in the sec.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Tell a friend

    Love TheBullsPen.com? Tell a friend!

  • South Florida Fight Song

     

  • Quotes

    “We’ve got to quit worrying about everybody else. We’ve got to worry about where our team is and where our team needs to be.”

    Charlie Strong

     

  • Files

  • Recent Achievements

  • Popular Contributors

  • Quotes

    “In my mind, I’m kind of like, ‘OK, excuses over'. We know what we need to do. We’ve got the right team together, and now we move forward, and we’ll evaluate and be accountable to each other, including myself, from this point forward.”

    Michael Kelly  

×
×
  • Create New...

It appears you are using ad blocking tools.  This site is supported through ads.  Please disable in order to enjoy full access to The Bulls Pen.  Registration is free and reduces ads.

Got it!
Dismiss