BJ vs. EJ

[thebouncer1898]

USF runs a spread option read offense, that seems like it's been utilized for Daniels. It seems like BJ has about 10-15 runs per game, sometimes more. That's different from what FSU does with Manuel. And you really don't think FSU game planned around BJ's ineffectiveness in the passing game? FSU took away the long pass from BJ (he tried to force it into deep coverage numerous times) and gave up anything short and tackled that well. The plan was to not get beat deep and we didn't. Early in the game FSU had to respect the fact BJ could pull back the read and run. This resulted in the RB being able to get some yards when actually receiving the ball (not a result of a good USF run game rather DLine waiting to attack runner). Once FSU had the lead and BJ had to throw to stay in the game, FSU pinned its ears back and stuffed USF's run and pressured Daniels like crazy, that's why he as throwing the ball away so much at the end. USF could have moved the ball vs. FSU if BJ would have just been able to hit the 5-10 yard passes consistently, FSU was giving him that all game. But BJ couldn't like he hasn't been able to his entire career and thus USF didn't take advantage

Get out of here with all that logic, bro. Put the green and gold tinted glasses on, drink the USF flavored kool-aid and edit your post and start balming Holtz, the lack of an OCS and the amount of FSU fans.

[Bull94]

USF runs a spread option read offense, that seems like it's been utilized for Daniels. It seems like BJ has about 10-15 runs per game, sometimes more. That's different from what FSU does with Manuel. And you really don't think FSU game planned around BJ's ineffectiveness in the passing game? FSU took away the long pass from BJ (he tried to force it into deep coverage numerous times) and gave up anything short and tackled that well. The plan was to not get beat deep and we didn't. Early in the game FSU had to respect the fact BJ could pull back the read and run. This resulted in the RB being able to get some yards when actually receiving the ball (not a result of a good USF run game rather DLine waiting to attack runner). Once FSU had the lead and BJ had to throw to stay in the game, FSU pinned its ears back and stuffed USF's run and pressured Daniels like crazy, that's why he as throwing the ball away so much at the end. USF could have moved the ball vs. FSU if BJ would have just been able to hit the 5-10 yard passes consistently, FSU was giving him that all game. But BJ couldn't like he hasn't been able to his entire career and thus USF didn't take advantage

we averaged 5.5 ypc in first quarter. 82 yards on 15 carries. we chewed up almost 11 minutes of the quarter.

our genius OC calls 9 pass plays and 1 run in 2nd quarter.

our OC once again went away from it.

[thebouncer1898]

USF runs a spread option read offense, that seems like it's been utilized for Daniels. It seems like BJ has about 10-15 runs per game, sometimes more. That's different from what FSU does with Manuel. And you really don't think FSU game planned around BJ's ineffectiveness in the passing game? FSU took away the long pass from BJ (he tried to force it into deep coverage numerous times) and gave up anything short and tackled that well. The plan was to not get beat deep and we didn't. Early in the game FSU had to respect the fact BJ could pull back the read and run. This resulted in the RB being able to get some yards when actually receiving the ball (not a result of a good USF run game rather DLine waiting to attack runner). Once FSU had the lead and BJ had to throw to stay in the game, FSU pinned its ears back and stuffed USF's run and pressured Daniels like crazy, that's why he as throwing the ball away so much at the end. USF could have moved the ball vs. FSU if BJ would have just been able to hit the 5-10 yard passes consistently, FSU was giving him that all game. But BJ couldn't like he hasn't been able to his entire career and thus USF didn't take advantage

we averaged 5.5 ypc in first quarter. 82 yards on 15 carries. we chewed up almost 11 minutes of the quarter.

our genius OC calls 9 pass plays and 1 run in 2nd quarter.

our OC once again went away from it.

FSU loaded up the box. IF Fitch tried to keep running against that, he would have been hammered for not throwing the ball.

[Bull94]

USF runs a spread option read offense, that seems like it's been utilized for Daniels. It seems like BJ has about 10-15 runs per game, sometimes more. That's different from what FSU does with Manuel. And you really don't think FSU game planned around BJ's ineffectiveness in the passing game? FSU took away the long pass from BJ (he tried to force it into deep coverage numerous times) and gave up anything short and tackled that well. The plan was to not get beat deep and we didn't. Early in the game FSU had to respect the fact BJ could pull back the read and run. This resulted in the RB being able to get some yards when actually receiving the ball (not a result of a good USF run game rather DLine waiting to attack runner). Once FSU had the lead and BJ had to throw to stay in the game, FSU pinned its ears back and stuffed USF's run and pressured Daniels like crazy, that's why he as throwing the ball away so much at the end. USF could have moved the ball vs. FSU if BJ would have just been able to hit the 5-10 yard passes consistently, FSU was giving him that all game. But BJ couldn't like he hasn't been able to his entire career and thus USF didn't take advantage

we averaged 5.5 ypc in first quarter. 82 yards on 15 carries. we chewed up almost 11 minutes of the quarter.

our genius OC calls 9 pass plays and 1 run in 2nd quarter.

our OC once again went away from it.

FSU loaded up the box. IF Fitch tried to keep running against that, he would have been hammered for not throwing the ball.

really? was the box loaded mysteriously at the end of 1st quarter? Murray had a 6 yard run right before 2nd quarter started. he didn't even try to run at all in 2nd quarter even though we had the ball at their 49. does georgia tech stop running when 8 go in the box? oh and BTW one of the coaches said they didn't even do that until after the half.your buddy Fitch is using it as an excuse. make them prove they can stop it. they didn't. we stopped ourselves.

you have an awful lot of excuses just like the coaches.

we had 3 runs to start 3rd quarter in which we scored a TD. I guess box wasn't loaded then.

Edited October 2, 2012 by Bull94

[bulls phanatic]

The fact that BJ does not always plant his feet drives me nuts. His throws would be so much better. I was impressed w/ EJ Manuel

[thebouncer1898]

USF runs a spread option read offense, that seems like it's been utilized for Daniels. It seems like BJ has about 10-15 runs per game, sometimes more. That's different from what FSU does with Manuel. And you really don't think FSU game planned around BJ's ineffectiveness in the passing game? FSU took away the long pass from BJ (he tried to force it into deep coverage numerous times) and gave up anything short and tackled that well. The plan was to not get beat deep and we didn't. Early in the game FSU had to respect the fact BJ could pull back the read and run. This resulted in the RB being able to get some yards when actually receiving the ball (not a result of a good USF run game rather DLine waiting to attack runner). Once FSU had the lead and BJ had to throw to stay in the game, FSU pinned its ears back and stuffed USF's run and pressured Daniels like crazy, that's why he as throwing the ball away so much at the end. USF could have moved the ball vs. FSU if BJ would have just been able to hit the 5-10 yard passes consistently, FSU was giving him that all game. But BJ couldn't like he hasn't been able to his entire career and thus USF didn't take advantage

we averaged 5.5 ypc in first quarter. 82 yards on 15 carries. we chewed up almost 11 minutes of the quarter.

our genius OC calls 9 pass plays and 1 run in 2nd quarter.

our OC once again went away from it.

FSU loaded up the box. IF Fitch tried to keep running against that, he would have been hammered for not throwing the ball.

really? was the box loaded mysteriously at the end of 1st quarter? Murray had a 6 yard run right before 2nd quarter started. he didn't even try to run at all in 2nd quarter even though we had the ball at their 49. does georgia tech stop running when 8 go in the box? oh and BTW one of the coaches said they didn't even do that until after the half.your buddy Fitch is using it as an excuse. make them prove they can stop it. they didn't. we stopped ourselves.

you have an awful lot of excuses just like the coaches.

we had 3 runs to start 3rd quarter in which we scored a TD. I guess box wasn't loaded then.

I couldn't pick Fitch out of a line up...sorry Bud.

And for the beginning of the 3rd quarter, didn't that drive start down near the goal line? Passing inside of the redzone, much less the 10 yard line is pretty difficult.

[thebouncer1898]

The fact that BJ does not always plant his feet drives me nuts. His throws would be so much better. I was impressed w/ EJ Manuel

His fundamentals haven't changed since the day he walked onto campus. Soooo frustrating.

[Bull94]

USF runs a spread option read offense, that seems like it's been utilized for Daniels. It seems like BJ has about 10-15 runs per game, sometimes more. That's different from what FSU does with Manuel. And you really don't think FSU game planned around BJ's ineffectiveness in the passing game? FSU took away the long pass from BJ (he tried to force it into deep coverage numerous times) and gave up anything short and tackled that well. The plan was to not get beat deep and we didn't. Early in the game FSU had to respect the fact BJ could pull back the read and run. This resulted in the RB being able to get some yards when actually receiving the ball (not a result of a good USF run game rather DLine waiting to attack runner). Once FSU had the lead and BJ had to throw to stay in the game, FSU pinned its ears back and stuffed USF's run and pressured Daniels like crazy, that's why he as throwing the ball away so much at the end. USF could have moved the ball vs. FSU if BJ would have just been able to hit the 5-10 yard passes consistently, FSU was giving him that all game. But BJ couldn't like he hasn't been able to his entire career and thus USF didn't take advantage

we averaged 5.5 ypc in first quarter. 82 yards on 15 carries. we chewed up almost 11 minutes of the quarter.

our genius OC calls 9 pass plays and 1 run in 2nd quarter.

our OC once again went away from it.

FSU loaded up the box. IF Fitch tried to keep running against that, he would have been hammered for not throwing the ball.

really? was the box loaded mysteriously at the end of 1st quarter? Murray had a 6 yard run right before 2nd quarter started. he didn't even try to run at all in 2nd quarter even though we had the ball at their 49. does georgia tech stop running when 8 go in the box? oh and BTW one of the coaches said they didn't even do that until after the half.your buddy Fitch is using it as an excuse. make them prove they can stop it. they didn't. we stopped ourselves.

you have an awful lot of excuses just like the coaches.

we had 3 runs to start 3rd quarter in which we scored a TD. I guess box wasn't loaded then.

I couldn't pick Fitch out of a line up...sorry Bud.

And for the beginning of the 3rd quarter, didn't that drive start down near the goal line? Passing inside of the redzone, much less the 10 yard line is pretty difficult.

passing is difficult but running isn't?? yikes . talk about a box being loaded.

tell me how they defended the deep ball as your fsu buddy suggests and also stacked the box when we go 4 and 5 wide?? tell me how that works?

our coaches gave up on the run at a critical time in the game. we averaged over 5.5 ypc in first quarter and we ran 1 out of 10 times in 2nd quarter.

Fitch gives up on the run. that's why we have a QB that is a better runner than passer average 2.8 passes for every run.

Edited October 2, 2012 by Bull94

[bulls phanatic]

The fact that BJ does not always plant his feet drives me nuts. His throws would be so much better. I was impressed w/ EJ Manuel

His fundamentals haven't changed since the day he walked onto campus. Soooo frustrating.

Coaching is big part of this problem

[thebouncer1898]

USF runs a spread option read offense, that seems like it's been utilized for Daniels. It seems like BJ has about 10-15 runs per game, sometimes more. That's different from what FSU does with Manuel. And you really don't think FSU game planned around BJ's ineffectiveness in the passing game? FSU took away the long pass from BJ (he tried to force it into deep coverage numerous times) and gave up anything short and tackled that well. The plan was to not get beat deep and we didn't. Early in the game FSU had to respect the fact BJ could pull back the read and run. This resulted in the RB being able to get some yards when actually receiving the ball (not a result of a good USF run game rather DLine waiting to attack runner). Once FSU had the lead and BJ had to throw to stay in the game, FSU pinned its ears back and stuffed USF's run and pressured Daniels like crazy, that's why he as throwing the ball away so much at the end. USF could have moved the ball vs. FSU if BJ would have just been able to hit the 5-10 yard passes consistently, FSU was giving him that all game. But BJ couldn't like he hasn't been able to his entire career and thus USF didn't take advantage

we averaged 5.5 ypc in first quarter. 82 yards on 15 carries. we chewed up almost 11 minutes of the quarter.

our genius OC calls 9 pass plays and 1 run in 2nd quarter.

our OC once again went away from it.

FSU loaded up the box. IF Fitch tried to keep running against that, he would have been hammered for not throwing the ball.

really? was the box loaded mysteriously at the end of 1st quarter? Murray had a 6 yard run right before 2nd quarter started. he didn't even try to run at all in 2nd quarter even though we had the ball at their 49. does georgia tech stop running when 8 go in the box? oh and BTW one of the coaches said they didn't even do that until after the half.your buddy Fitch is using it as an excuse. make them prove they can stop it. they didn't. we stopped ourselves.

you have an awful lot of excuses just like the coaches.

we had 3 runs to start 3rd quarter in which we scored a TD. I guess box wasn't loaded then.

I couldn't pick Fitch out of a line up...sorry Bud.

And for the beginning of the 3rd quarter, didn't that drive start down near the goal line? Passing inside of the redzone, much less the 10 yard line is pretty difficult.

passing is difficult but running isn't?? yikes . talk about a box being loaded.

tell me how they defended the deep ball as your fsu buddy suggests and also stacked the box when we go 4 and 5 wide?? tell me how that works?

our coaches gave up on the run at a critical time in the game. we averaged over 5.5 ypc in first quarter and we ran 1 out of 10 times in 2nd quarter.

Fitch gives up on the run. that's why we have a QB that is a better runner than passer average 2.8 passes for every run.

Thanks for making me feel so well-known and liked....didn't realize I have so many friends out there.

And, if you watch the replay they stacked the box and played man on the outsides. FSU has better athletes than USF and they trusted their corners to cover 1 on 1 on the deep plays.