cmhatter Posted October 25, 2009 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 8,174 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 6 Joined: 09/02/2007 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Well then jg, I guess if that's not doom and gloom we have two different definitions.I'll wait and see the games played before I call 'em over. And I think that's the issue or difference between many of us. Some of us that have watched in recent years know we're able to snap out of a slump as easily as we go into one. We'd rather take our loss and move on to the next game anticipating improvement and hopefully a better outcome. Again, how you can even be a fan of the game with that kind of outlook is puzzling to me. As a fan, a former player, and a current coach I know you still have to play the game and anything can happen.if you think that is doom and gloom then yeah i'd say your definitions don't match...I think he was just stating that IN HIS OPINION the staff can't get the job done right now and future season will unfold the same way they have been if this staff stays in place.Are you a paid coach? I'd say the situations are different when you are earning your living by coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jg Posted October 26, 2009 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 959 Reputation: 14 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/04/2006 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Well then jg, I guess if that's not doom and gloom we have two different definitions.I'll wait and see the games played before I call 'em over. And I think that's the issue or difference between many of us. Some of us that have watched in recent years know we're able to snap out of a slump as easily as we go into one. We'd rather take our loss and move on to the next game anticipating improvement and hopefully a better outcome. Again, how you can even be a fan of the game with that kind of outlook is puzzling to me. As a fan, a former player, and a current coach I know you still have to play the game and anything can happen.Based on what I have seen so far we are not good and could possibly go winless the rest of the year. That is reality, not Doom and Gloom. I am at the stadium every week, no matter, cheering on the Bulls. The same can not be said for some, whatever the case may be. Why some people are good with mediocrity is beyond me. Lets just expect to go around .500 (or dare I say below) in the Big East and be OK with it ? Nope. Yeah and as a former player, coach myself you set high standards and goals for yourself and are not satisfied until you achieve them. If not, you are probably not a good coach or athlete.Snap out of a slump ? Not what I have witnessed over the last 5 years, 2006 being the exception not the rule. 2004 Over our head all year 4-72005 Started 6-3 finish 6-62006 Started 6-3 finish 9-4 (great job)2007 Started 6-0 finish 9-42008 Started 6-1 Finish 8-52009 Started 5-0 Finish ??? Guessing 7-5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theman123 Posted October 26, 2009 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 5,591 Reputation: 204 Days Won: 3 Joined: 12/10/2006 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Nothing so far, except a win over Florida State. Regardless of what FSU does this season, that is a win that helps the program. Still, a righted ship can win up to 5 conference games. Yes, they still need to be played.And Miami awaits - it is an important OOC game and can have huge ramifications.You can doom and gloom it all you want. I suggest you stop watching. While I love your optimism, you have to be realistic here and understand were some of the gloom come form.USF did not show up for this game the way they should if they had aspirations to win out and take home a Big East crown. The way they played has to leave doubt in your mind on how this season will pan out.We all are going to watch the bulls but when they play much worse then we all expect, we come on here to vent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebeau Posted October 26, 2009 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 4,738 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/01/2007 Share Posted October 26, 2009 saturdays performance can bring out the gloom in anyonei hope these boys wake up for the friday night lights. west virginia is there for the taking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Hairy_Bull Posted October 26, 2009 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 827 Reputation: 15 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/25/2002 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Well then jg, I guess if that's not doom and gloom we have two different definitions.I'll wait and see the games played before I call 'em over. And I think that's the issue or difference between many of us. Some of us that have watched in recent years know we're able to snap out of a slump as easily as we go into one. We'd rather take our loss and move on to the next game anticipating improvement and hopefully a better outcome. Again, how you can even be a fan of the game with that kind of outlook is puzzling to me. As a fan, a former player, and a current coach I know you still have to play the game and anything can happen.Based on what I have seen so far we are not good and could possibly go winless the rest of the year. That is reality, not Doom and Gloom. I am at the stadium every week, no matter, cheering on the Bulls. The same can not be said for some, whatever the case may be. Why some people are good with mediocrity is beyond me. Lets just expect to go around .500 (or dare I say below) in the Big East and be OK with it ? Nope. Yeah and as a former player, coach myself you set high standards and goals for yourself and are not satisfied until you achieve them. If not, you are probably not a good coach or athlete.Snap out of a slump ? Not what I have witnessed over the last 5 years, 2006 being the exception not the rule. 2004 Over our head all year 4-72005 Started 6-3 finish 6-62006 Started 6-3 finish 9-4 (great job)2007 Started 6-0 finish 9-42008 Started 6-1 Finish 8-52009 Started 5-0 Finish ??? Guessing 7-5Lighten up Francis! You would have a decent case if Grothe didn't get hurt and we were in the same scenario. But seeing that we have a Fresh QB, you have to give a little slack. I will wait to see the season finish out before I starting asking for coaches heads to be cut off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted October 26, 2009 Group: Admin Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 97,043 Reputation: 10,833 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I think you all should just go ahead and enjoy your doom and gloom (unless that makes things better) and quit trying to convince the rest here they should join you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jg Posted October 26, 2009 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 959 Reputation: 14 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/04/2006 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Well then jg, I guess if that's not doom and gloom we have two different definitions.I'll wait and see the games played before I call 'em over. And I think that's the issue or difference between many of us. Some of us that have watched in recent years know we're able to snap out of a slump as easily as we go into one. We'd rather take our loss and move on to the next game anticipating improvement and hopefully a better outcome. Again, how you can even be a fan of the game with that kind of outlook is puzzling to me. As a fan, a former player, and a current coach I know you still have to play the game and anything can happen.Based on what I have seen so far we are not good and could possibly go winless the rest of the year. That is reality, not Doom and Gloom. I am at the stadium every week, no matter, cheering on the Bulls. The same can not be said for some, whatever the case may be. Why some people are good with mediocrity is beyond me. Lets just expect to go around .500 (or dare I say below) in the Big East and be OK with it ? Nope. Yeah and as a former player, coach myself you set high standards and goals for yourself and are not satisfied until you achieve them. If not, you are probably not a good coach or athlete.Snap out of a slump ? Not what I have witnessed over the last 5 years, 2006 being the exception not the rule. 2004 Over our head all year 4-72005 Started 6-3 finish 6-62006 Started 6-3 finish 9-4 (great job)2007 Started 6-0 finish 9-42008 Started 6-1 Finish 8-52009 Started 5-0 Finish ??? Guessing 7-5Lighten up Francis! You would have a decent case if Grothe didn't get hurt and we were in the same scenario. But seeing that we have a Fresh QB, you have to give a little slack. I will wait to see the season finish out before I starting asking for coaches heads to be cut off.I am sure Grothe would have saved us from the mighty Pitt Panthers :ROFLMAOI did not say fire Leavitt (yet).... Oh never mind. I see us going undefeated the rest of the way. No stopping us now. Why ??? I don't know ?? Because you guys say its horrible, stupid, ignorant etc to think otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullAlum05 Posted October 26, 2009 Group: Bull Backers Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 125 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/25/2005 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Didn't realize grothe played d. Didn't realize grothe could rush the qb or not let receivers get behind him or stop the run. We looked like a 1aa team on sat. The players and coaches should be ashamed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulls On Parade Posted October 26, 2009 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 10,201 Reputation: 1,714 Days Won: 2 Joined: 10/02/2005 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Didn't realize grothe played d. Didn't realize grothe could rush the qb or not let receivers get behind him or stop the run. We looked like a 1aa team on sat. The players and coaches should be ashamed. A bad 1aa team at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Hairy_Bull Posted October 26, 2009 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 827 Reputation: 15 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/25/2002 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Didn't realize grothe played d. Didn't realize grothe could rush the qb or not let receivers get behind him or stop the run. We looked like a 1aa team on sat. The players and coaches should be ashamed. I wasn't referring to just the PITT game. Yes the defense played horrible. And yes we looked like a 1AA team on Sat. And I am sure the players, coaches and even us fans are ashamed. (Me included). But my point is, it is ridiculous to want to fire coaches and change regimes. (Title of the Thread) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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