Cubanbull Posted April 25, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 6,848 Reputation: 1,114 Days Won: 22 Joined: 12/23/2001 Share Posted April 25, 2007 Not surprised at this development, i said it in an earlier thread. Scholarships are NOT guaranteed for four years and when new coaches come in they usually take some away to bring their own guys.Look at Bobby Knight when he went to Texas Tech he cleaned house, did anybody jump down his throat?Basketball and football are big businesses wether we like to admit it or not, if a coach oesnt win it doesnt matter how many kids he graduates he is a goner.Heath is comming here to win and will do what he thinks should be done to achieve that goal. Now he has said that Cann will be able to stay in school and get support he needs or is cleared to transfered. That sounds fair to me. When a player gets a scholarship is suppose to be to produce on the court or field if you dnt cut it you shouldnt keep the scholarship. The same happens for an academic scholarship.Heath will now be able to go get the big center, Bush and the transfer from Kst. all of those three should be bigger producers than Cann.Thats the reality and when Heath gets USF into NIT or NCAA nobody will be on his case about this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usfgrad84 Posted April 25, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 6,348 Reputation: 662 Days Won: 8 Joined: 05/25/2006 Share Posted April 25, 2007 Reading the quotes by Heath in Greg's blog, there's more to the story than is out in the public at this point.Feel real bad for Zarron Cann, but this is the reality of big time basketball in a big time conference. We can't complain about Mac having six scholarship players on the court during the season and then in the next breath get on Heath's case for making a tough decision that will lead to putting a full team on the sidelines.I hope Cann can get his degree either through a scholarship at any school D1, DII or otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeBulls Posted April 25, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 477 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 This is a travesty. The NCAA needs to enact a rule that states a kid can be cut from a team but the scholarship must be enforced. It should not be counted against that teams total scholarships but the kid should be provided his 4 year education he was promised.There are far too many kids that fall through the cracks when these million dollar coaches come in and these kids are forced to leave. They are here for an education first and foremost. BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH....The guy was given a scholarship to come play basketball.... he couldn't because he was hurt -- therefore you don't get the scholarship.We arent' handing out free educations here.If you are given a acaemic scholarship and then come to USF and get "C" and "D's" -- do you think you get to keep that full ride?The dude was eating up a scholarship and contributing nothing on the court.He was given two years to get his crap together and played in 6 out of 64 games at USF!!..cry me a river --We aren't running a welfare clinic here.We just don't hand out 20k dollar educations because we "like the guy" -- or because "we made a promise."Give me a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Wall Posted April 26, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 937 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/09/2006 Share Posted April 26, 2007 cann wasn't good why would heath waste a scholarship on him... great movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted April 26, 2007 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 74,736 Reputation: 10,960 Days Won: 425 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted April 26, 2007 This is a travesty. The NCAA needs to enact a rule that states a kid can be cut from a team but the scholarship must be enforced. It should not be counted against that teams total scholarships but the kid should be provided his 4 year education he was promised.There are far too many kids that fall through the cracks when these million dollar coaches come in and these kids are forced to leave. They are here for an education first and foremost. BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH....The guy was given a scholarship to come play basketball.... he couldn't because he was hurt -- therefore you don't get the scholarship.We arent' handing out free educations here.If you are given a acaemic scholarship and then come to USF and get "C" and "D's"  -- do you think you get to keep that full ride?The dude was eating up a scholarship and contributing nothing on the court.He was given two years to get his crap together and played in 6 out of 64 games at USF!!..cry me a river --We aren't running a welfare clinic here.We just don't hand out 20k dollar educations because we "like the guy" -- or because "we made a promise."Give me a break.DBAD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyG Posted April 26, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 20 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/02/2005 Share Posted April 26, 2007 on Apr 4th, 2007, 11:46pm, i said: Zaronn Cann is my candidate for "most likely to leave the program." although he's got some neat skills and he's a great passer, his defense and his body language are not inspirational... Hope I'm wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tampajo Posted April 26, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 538 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/27/2005 Share Posted April 26, 2007 This is a travesty. The NCAA needs to enact a rule that states a kid can be cut from a team but the scholarship must be enforced. It should not be counted against that teams total scholarships but the kid should be provided his 4 year education he was promised.There are far too many kids that fall through the cracks when these million dollar coaches come in and these kids are forced to leave. They are here for an education first and foremost. Travesty??? WTF? Get some more facts, Dorothy, or take Toto back to Kansas........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbryan Posted April 26, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 4,259 Reputation: 39 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/16/2006 Share Posted April 26, 2007 This is a travesty. The NCAA needs to enact a rule that states a kid can be cut from a team but the scholarship must be enforced. It should not be counted against that teams total scholarships but the kid should be provided his 4 year education he was promised.There are far too many kids that fall through the cracks when these million dollar coaches come in and these kids are forced to leave. They are here for an education first and foremost. Student Loans, Montgomery GI Bill, Pell Grant, academic scholarship, work (now that's novel!), etc. Can't produce on court, get your degree the old fashioned way. This isn't socialist France, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeBulls Posted April 26, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 477 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 (standing ovation for hbryan) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull94 Posted April 26, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted April 26, 2007 This is a travesty. The NCAA needs to enact a rule that states a kid can be cut from a team but the scholarship must be enforced. It should not be counted against that teams total scholarships but the kid should be provided his 4 year education he was promised.There are far too many kids that fall through the cracks when these million dollar coaches come in and these kids are forced to leave. They are here for an education first and foremost. Student Loans, Montgomery GI Bill, Pell Grant, academic scholarship, work (now that's novel!), etc.  Can't produce on court, get your degree the old fashioned way.  This isn't socialist France, is it?  get a clue hbryan. Socialist France? Really?Professional baseball contracts are guaranteed. Professional basketball contracts are guaranteed. Professional hockey contracts are guaranteed. Professional Football contracts are front loaded with guranteed money. If those guys get hurt, cut for performance, don't get along with a coach, etc, they still get paid millions of dollars. So I guess if we guarantee a college education to a basketball player then we live in socialist France?Why do we GUARANTEE the coaches salaries??I have no problem with him being cut for performance but I do have a problem with a Billion dollar industry treating their product like cattle. The NCAA wouldn't exist without the STUDENT-athlete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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