thanks for clarifying, but you never said it would,either, which was my point. Either way, it's a sad mess. I did see mac and the team on the plan to chicago. I tried to chit chat with the coach (hey coach, i'm an alum, hang in there in the last game, etc.), he was courteous, professional, but could have given a **** what I thought, said or was. That dispassion is fatal in a coach who's looking up at success. He needs to be fired up, so his kids will be, that is the baseline of success - enthusiasm and passion. To the contrary, I chatted with Gransberry and Mattis, very professional, smiled, good kids, polite and appreciated a fan/alum, etc. saying hi. I feel for them, to a degree, I feel for Mac too, but he's just not the right guy for the job. Might make a great prison administrator, though...