Triple B Posted January 26, 2007 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,737 Reputation: 10,963 Days Won: 425 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Direct quote from our starting fullback during Gregory's tenure:that said, gregory definitely needed to go. i remember the buffalo game at buffalo (where we got pummeled) and their linebackers calling our exact plays and pointing out where we were going. there's nothing like running mid-line option as a fullback when the defense knows where you're going.Sounds like excuses to me. Players obviously weren't good enough to beat woeful Buffalo and started the blame game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobcat99 Posted January 27, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 18 Content Count: 594 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/16/2002 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Direct quote from our starting fullback during Gregory's tenure:that said, gregory definitely needed to go. i remember the buffalo game at buffalo (where we got pummeled) and their linebackers calling our exact plays and pointing out where we were going. there's nothing like running mid-line option as a fullback when the defense knows where you're going.Sounds like excuses to me. Players obviously weren't good enough to beat woeful Buffalo and started the blame game... It's the same group of players whom under the previous OC scored 44 points against the Bulls. The same Buffalo that had lost 12 straight until beating us. And they shut us out.I am inclined to trust their judgment, particularly the ones who played under Grobe initially then made the conversion to the Knorr regime (Knorr had very little if anything to do with the offense during his tenure here).I'm just saying that any optimism should be very guarded. The overall opinion from former players is great loads of sympathy for all of us here at USF. That's something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted January 27, 2007 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,737 Reputation: 10,963 Days Won: 425 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Direct quote from our starting fullback during Gregory's tenure:that said, gregory definitely needed to go. i remember the buffalo game at buffalo (where we got pummeled) and their linebackers calling our exact plays and pointing out where we were going. there's nothing like running mid-line option as a fullback when the defense knows where you're going.Sounds like excuses to me. Players obviously weren't good enough to beat woeful Buffalo and started the blame game... It's the same group of players whom under the previous OC scored 44 points against the Bulls. The same Buffalo that had lost 12 straight until beating us. And they shut us out.I am inclined to trust their judgment, particularly the ones who played under Grobe initially then made the conversion to the Knorr regime (Knorr had very little if anything to do with the offense during his tenure here).I'm just saying that any optimism should be very guarded. The overall opinion from former players is great loads of sympathy for all of us here at USF. That's something!The thread starter said he averaged 31 points per conference game while OC @ Ohio. Is that incorrect? If it is, what's the real number? If it's correct, it seems silly to pull that Buffalo game out that appears to be an aberration ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windbane Posted January 27, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 39 Content Count: 3,403 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/27/2005 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Direct quote from our starting fullback during Gregory's tenure:that said, gregory definitely needed to go. i remember the buffalo game at buffalo (where we got pummeled) and their linebackers calling our exact plays and pointing out where we were going. there's nothing like running mid-line option as a fullback when the defense knows where you're going.Sounds like excuses to me. Players obviously weren't good enough to beat woeful Buffalo and started the blame game... It's the same group of players whom under the previous OC scored 44 points against the Bulls. The same Buffalo that had lost 12 straight until beating us. And they shut us out.I am inclined to trust their judgment, particularly the ones who played under Grobe initially then made the conversion to the Knorr regime (Knorr had very little if anything to do with the offense during his tenure here).I'm just saying that any optimism should be very guarded. The overall opinion from former players is great loads of sympathy for all of us here at USF. That's something!The thread starter said he averaged 31 points per conference game while OC @ Ohio. Is that incorrect? If it is, what's the real number? If it's correct, it seems silly to pull that Buffalo game out that appears to be an aberration ...yeah, I'm optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobcat99 Posted January 27, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 18 Content Count: 594 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/16/2002 Share Posted January 27, 2007 The thread starter said he averaged 31 points per conference game while OC @ Ohio. Is that incorrect? If it is, what's the real number? If it's correct, it seems silly to pull that Buffalo game out that appears to be an aberration ...Gregory was OC from 2001-2003.2001: 18.0 ppg. 240 rushing ypg, 74.5 passing ypg. (24.38ppg in conference)2002: 24.9 ppg. 239 rushing ypg, 87.4 passing ypg. (30.13ppg in conference)2003: 21.9 ppg. 183 rushing ypg, 154 passing ypg. (24ppg in conference) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand the Bull Posted January 27, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 25 Content Count: 274 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/19/2006 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Hmmmm. 26ppgs is not bad either! How was the defense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastertate Posted January 27, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 4 Content Count: 57 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/24/2005 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Hmmmm. 26ppgs is not bad either!  How was the defense?2001: 29.1 ppg allowed (30.6 vs MAC teams)2002: 31.2 ppg allowed (30.6 vs MAC teams)2003: 31.0 ppg allowed (30.5 vs MAC teams) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.T. Posted January 27, 2007 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 4,751 Content Count: 37,676 Reputation: 2,368 Days Won: 29 Joined: 12/24/2001 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Negative quotes from former players ... you can get a list from ALL coaches.I really see this as an upgrade ... love the experience and leavitt's nod.This is the most talent and depth USF has ever had. An experienced OC will only help.Excited about 2007 Spring !Go BULLS !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake_Ryan Posted January 27, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 32 Content Count: 919 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/29/2001 Share Posted January 27, 2007 The thread starter said he averaged 31 points per conference game while OC @ Ohio. Is that incorrect? If it is, what's the real number? If it's correct, it seems silly to pull that Buffalo game out that appears to be an aberration ...Gregory was OC from 2001-2003.2001: 18.0 ppg. 240 rushing ypg, 74.5 passing ypg. (24.38ppg in conference)2002: 24.9 ppg. 239 rushing ypg, 87.4 passing ypg. (30.13ppg in conference)2003: 21.9 ppg. 183 rushing ypg, 154 passing ypg. (24ppg in conference)Scout says Gregory's Ohio teams averaged 32 ppg during these years. Who's wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 27, 2007 Group: Member Topic Count: 197 Content Count: 10,251 Reputation: 270 Days Won: 14 Joined: 08/16/2005 Share Posted January 27, 2007 I just did the math, looks like Bobcat's numbers are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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