Bobcat99

Not true. In Florida, the individual who serves is only responsible if they serve someone illegally; illegally serving a drink in Florida is defined as serving to someone who is underage or knowingly serving an alcoholic.

The NCAA requires all employers of student-athletes to file an Employment Form in the Compliance Office of the institution. If he is the general manager, he would have been the one to fill out the form and thus would know exactly how often Grothe works there. This whole thing is starting to stink.

If Matt Grothe was hired to work there because he was Matt Grothe, USF quarterback, and not because he was an experienced, skilled bartender, that's an NCAA violation.

Part of the problem here is that this isn't just any establishment. It's an establishment owned by a booster. To an external observer, it looks very similar to the Rhett Bomar situation.

MADD uses fear tactics to fiat laws on states. MADD is the reason the drinking age is 21. MADD is the reason the margin for DUI went from .15, to .12, to .10, to .08 in every state. MADD is singlehandedly ripping the rights of states to decide their own laws away from them. I agree that fighting drunk driving is a good thing, but MADD uses tactics of federalism and fear to mandate laws to states, blackmailing them into passing absurd laws in order to keep their access to federal highway funding.

Actually, it was a state agency...but your point is still valid. I can't help but wonder if he was being "targeted" so they could get a high-profile bust. Actually, I don't wonder at all -- that IS what happened. They do this at every bar in Tampa. Believe it or not, Matt Grothe is not some kind of celebrity around this town. He might be to USF football fans, but that's a small percentage of the community as a whole. I assure you, the state agencies do stings at every bar in the area, as does the Hillsborough Sheriff's Department. This had nothing to do with anything but Matt Grothe breaking the first law of bartending. If you don't like that law enforcement agencies enforce the law, perhaps you ought to try and get it changed, or at least strip some of the power from the organization that pushes for these investigations: MADD.

If you wanted to cheer for UF, you should have gone there. If you can't get into UF, you have no right cheering for them, because they think they're better than you. In fact, to cheer for a school that rejected you is the very definition of pathetic. But we've been over all this before and some of you will disagree and some of you will agree and no one will ever decide on anything.

I can't believe every person in this thread has missed the point. Mac wasn't saying he didn't WANT to be in the Big East. Every coach desires to be at the highest level possible. He said HAD HE KNOWN they were going to the Big East, he'd have never taken the job. Meaning that he saw the funding and support as adequate for CUSA but NOT for the Big East. You all are reading it completely wrong. I hope we end up with a great coach and a great team, but Seth himself said unless the team gets a huge influx of funding we're going to be Big East bottom dwellers in perpetuity.

Obviously, you don't know anyone that has been killed by a drunk-driver or if you do, you just don't care. More highway deaths are caused by drivers with .01-.03% BAC than .08 or .09 (1.7% to 1.4% according to the NHTSA). Of course, 76% are caused by sober drivers. MADD is petitioning Florida to lower the DUI number to .05%, btw, and word from Tallahassee is they're in favor.

Congrats! They look like they'll be fantastic. Really looking forward to seeing them on the field.

KG really embodies the student-athlete ideal to me. He worked hard in my class, was never absent, and always had a positive attitude. Every time I see him on campus he comes up to say hi, and I regularly see him working with students in his other classes on outside assignments, etc. He's a good kid, and I really look forward to seeing what he can do next year with a strong supporting cast.

Just out of sake of giving you advice, I will simply say that if you ever want to be taken seriously in a debate, work on your spelling and grammar. It decimates any argumentative credibility you have when you sound like a ten-year-old. But, then, I can't fathom one reason a person could ever find to cheer for Ohio State unless they went there. They represent everything that is wrong about college athletics.

If you're married to one girl, I certainly would tell you it's inappropriate to be interested in a different one. And yet that's what happens when you cheer for a school that isn't your alma mater. If you like a college team, you should attend that college. If you don't, clearly you're really not that big a fan. If you can't get in, that team has just rejected you. If you continue to follow them, it's like asking a girl out who says "you're not good enough for me" and yet still following her around like a pathetic little dog. If you can't be with the one you love, honey, love the one you're with.

360 version sucks compared to the regular Xbox version, IMHO. The lack of stadiums, proper replay set, and other missing features are what bother me. Anyway, NCAA comes out beginning of August/end of July every year. The release date has, surprisingly, moved up every year a small amount.

I'm at USF because of academics. I'm here, on a USF sports site, as a USF sports fan. It is an alma mater, albeit not my initial alma mater, and thus it's a part of me, and that's why I cheer for the Bulls. (Please don't ask me anything about Eastern Michigan.) Look, I moved here and adopted the Devil Rays in no time. If I can adopt the Devil Rays, it shouldn't be so hard for people to adopt the Bulls (insert team here). It doesn't take much effort to learn about the home team. Baseball has a de facto system that ensures some measure of success for the rich. It's not a balanced system like in the NFL. The NBA is a bit better, but the lottery system ensures that occasionally you'll have four- or five- year runs of success and failure for given teams. College is the most imbalanced of all; not only do the rich teams have more money NOW than the poor teams, the system explicitly funnels more money to the rich teams than the poor teams. That's why cheering for a team like UF if you didn't go there is so unbelievably lame. They have tons of money, the NCAA ensures they get even more every year, so what is the point of even cheering for them? They are provided so much opportunity before the season even begins that I can't see how anything other than a national championship would be satisfying. Compare this to the NFL where there is revenue sharing and a direct-impact draft system (baseball has a direct draft but as we Devil Ray fans have observed there is no guarantee that #1 draft picks will eventually even be major league contributors). If you can't get it through your head why it's wrong to cheer for another school (at your level) while a student of one school then I'm probably never going to be able to explain it to you. (Certainly there's nothing wrong with cheering for the Spartans as a USF student/alumnus. They don't directly compete with each other for students, recruits, or otherwise.) Be true to your school, now.