ok, i'll settle this.... i was at the football offices the other day looking at players official heights and weights measured by the strength and conditioning staff.  grothe is right at 6'0" tall with no shoes on and weighed in at 200 lbs at the end of the summer, and i believe 194 at the end of the regular season.  he's not daunte culpepper or anything, but the guy isn't a rail, he's spent some time in the weight room. some guys sizes on the roster are dead on, some guys weights and/or heights are really inflated and a few are deflated.