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Interesting concept - could USF pull it off?

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Oh boy.

It doesn't necessarily mean that of course.  But keep on.

Can you keep this stuff on the Fire Jeff Scott thread?  Thanks.

 

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This argument was put forth by puc yesterday. Didn't read it all, but I would not go for it. At lower levels, I have seen great talent squandered by bad coaching.  Plus, I don't think you ca

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I’ve said this no fewer than 100 times 

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Begs another question, who are we going to outspend in NIL?

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12 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

If only contracts were only performance based we probably have a new coach.

Maybe, maybe not. It would all depend on the structure of the contract. Structure other than the buy out clause. Cause right now that's all we've got. We simply cannot afford to keep paying a losing coach. But, IF that contract stipulated, in writing a certain degree of accomplishment, then you could terminate that contract "with cause"... or lack there of as the case would be.

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7 minutes ago, BDYZR said:

Maybe, maybe not. It would all depend on the structure of the contract. Structure other than the buy out clause. Cause right now that's all we've got. We simply cannot afford to keep paying a losing coach. But, IF that contract stipulated, in writing a certain degree of accomplishment, then you could terminate that contract "with cause"... or lack there of as the case would be.

Pay 1000 dollars per loss and 200k per win. Bowl amd conference championship wins are worth 400k each. If and only if though. 

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Just now, Outlaw said:

Pay 1000 dollars per loss and 200k per win. Bowl amd conference championship wins are worth 400k each.

Pretty simple. $2.6million for an undefeated season is fair. I like it!

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4 hours ago, smazza said:

usf cant afford to play in nil game

who are we kidding

get a coach kids want to play for

the market place dictates this wouldnt work

I think the point is the market already has been dictating for us that we can only get a certain level of coach.  And if you're reliant on lesser coaches your odds of getting better players AND good coaching/preparation are that much wrose.

Considering that we've been shuffling coaches with no luck, why not *try* to move resources to a novel area, the NIL, instead of trying to compete in arms races for coaches and stadiums.  

We can't outcompete everyone on facilities or coaches...so why not let others be encumbered by huge coaching contracts and stadium upkeep costs while we go straight to the source and pay for better players?

Of course the bigger programs will be better at using money, but if we can get ahead of AAC peers/lower P5 teams for a bit it might be worth it.

At this point I'm all for it.  Just go radically different because nothing is working for us.

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27 minutes ago, Ghostbuster said:

I think the point is the market already has been dictating for us that we can only get a certain level of coach.  And if you're reliant on lesser coaches your odds of getting better players AND good coaching/preparation are that much wrose.

Considering that we've been shuffling coaches with no luck, why not *try* to move resources to a novel area, the NIL, instead of trying to compete in arms races for coaches and stadiums.  

We can't outcompete everyone on facilities or coaches...so why not let others be encumbered by huge coaching contracts and stadium upkeep costs while we go straight to the source and pay for better players?

Of course the bigger programs will be better at using money, but if we can get ahead of AAC peers/lower P5 teams for a bit it might be worth it.

At this point I'm all for it.  Just go radically different because nothing is working for us.

This is the way☝️ If anyone just does a quick sketch out of dollars spent and then likely scenarios it becomes pretty clear pretty quickly that this is the best use of dollars to create the quickest solution with the greatest likelihood for success 

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Why would a coach sign one of those when 129 other schools will pay by the old scheme?

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9 minutes ago, Grateful Dad said:

Why would a coach sign one of those when 129 other schools will pay by the old scheme?

Right... good ******* luck finding a coach with that contract. I wish it were performance based but unrealistic right now. 

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