Is this our Stanley Clerveaux?

[puc86]

17 minutes ago, Gatorbull325 said:

I agree on PUC with this one 100% @E.T, Personally I feel that prostitution (and Marijuana ) should be legal and regulated. It is a victimless crime if the woman (or man) chooses to sell their body of their own free will. I think prostitution being illegal contributes greatly to the problem of sex trafficking. Same goes for weed. If you want to send a f-you to the cartels in Mexico, then legalize weed. I'm not onboard for legalizing coke, meth or heroin though. 

Do you eat peanut butter and no jelly sandwiches?

[puc86]

16 minutes ago, E.T. said:

If . . . I am saying that WHEN the person is forced - they are the victim.

I think the point we are trying to make is that is illegal creates more of the if so that can’t be a reason for the law, the law exacerbates the problem and creates victims where you should find consenting adults.

[Triple B]

20 minutes ago, E.T. said:

If . . . I am saying that WHEN the person is forced - they are the victim.

A little surprised you're having to re-emphasize this ....

[puc86]

Just now, Triple B said:

A little surprised you're having to re-emphasize this ....

He doesn’t, it’s a straw man argument (and I consider myself an expert on that subject). No one is saying forced  interactions are victimless or should be allowed, the argument is that using that as a reason to make consensual transactions illegal creates a system where since both are illegal, the void in the market is more often filled by criminals less concerned with consent than licensed businesses would be. 

[E.T.]

Seems some may not know what happens in the real world . . . 

Some people are forced into prostitution, therefore they are victims - Bottom Line. 

"In many cases this is not a victimless crime."

No dissertation required.

[puc86]

3 minutes ago, E.T. said:

Seems some may not know what happens in the real world . . . 

Some people are forced into prostitution, therefore they are victims - Bottom Line. 

"In many cases this is not a victimless crime."

No dissertation required.

It’s really quite simple, that when it’s a victimless crime it’s still a crime creates the victim crime more frequent. That the law exacerbates a problem isn’t a good reason to use for the basis having the law. 

[Triple B]

1 hour ago, E.T. said:

Seems some may not know what happens in the real world . . . 

Some people are forced into prostitution, therefore they are victims - Bottom Line. 

"In many cases this is not a victimless crime."

No dissertation required.

I think most know what happens out there. It's just that some occasionally get bored and need something to bide their time. Your "In many cases this is not a victimless crime"  is a cut and dried truth and the only point you were making, no matter how hard some tried pulling you off on a different tangent. Well done, sir.

[puc86]

7 minutes ago, Triple B said:

I think most know what happens out there. It's just that some occasionally get bored and need something to bide their time. Your "In many cases this is not a victimless crime"  is a cut and dried truth and the only point you were making, no matter how hard some tried pulling you off on a different tangent. Well done, sir.

Marriage is sometimes not consensual does that somehow mean all marriage should be illegal? What if we just made laws against human trafficking and forced labor?

[E.T.]

1 minute ago, puc86 said:

Marriage is sometimes not consensual does that somehow mean all marriage should be illegal? What if we just made laws against human trafficking and forced labor?

[puc86]

3 minutes ago, E.T. said:

Good point suicide being illegal is also dumb