Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

[Jim Johnson]

 

 

[BDYZR]

15 hours ago, Cat941 said:

 

B1G to FSU - "Listen ,we'll let you in at a pro-rated rate until you earn your AAU acceptance. You have __ years to do that. And remember, we hold are the cards, and most of the cash. Take it or leave it."

[Peatearpan]

1 hour ago, BDYZR said:

B1G to FSU - "Listen ,we'll let you in at a pro-rated rate until you earn your AAU acceptance. You have __ years to do that. And remember, we hold are the cards, and most of the cash. Take it or leave it."

USF to B1G - “Listen, we’ll join right now and have AAU status. Our football and basketball programs are on an upswing. There is investment in the athletic facilities. Our city is blowing up. Take it or leave it.”

[Outlaw]

6 hours ago, GoBulls84 said:

The B1G is in the unique position that they can demand both. They already make enough TV money as a conference that cares about the AAU status. They don't need to add others unless they meet the criteria they want. And there are quality additions available to them that meet both the blue blood/strong athletic program and AAU criteria. UNC is obviously a basketball blue blood with AAU status and also a very strong all around athletic department (#8 in the Learfield Cup last year). UVA is also an AAU school with a very strong all around athletics department (#4 in Learfield Cup).

Uva has sucked at football for decades. They bring nothing to the B1G other than possible location. TV Contracts primarily pay out on football TV ratings.  So uva doesn't really move the b1g any closer to the SEC. All it would do is give them a new market , which they probably already  have  tv views because the dc/Virginia  area is close to Maryland and Pennsylvania. 

Edited February 20 by Outlaw

[GoBulls84]

3 hours ago, Jim Johnson said:

 

 

So they put out the 6-6 model (yay G5s have a chance!), then pretended they were killing the Pac (so they could cut to 5+7 with this idea that it's now P4) while also giving them a chance to maintain their status. Pac will take on the MW all under the P12 moniker, then we still have a P5 and now the G_ don't get a guaranteed seat and will inevitably still be left out of the dance.

If you think this is a wild conspiracy theory that used the "death" of the Pac to reduce the number of guaranteed conference winners while simultaneously gonna let the Pac keep their autonomy status, then you haven't been paying attention the last 15-20 years. They'll continue to shut out the current have nots, because they don't want them getting any of that sweet sweet CFP pie.

[GoBulls84]

1 hour ago, Outlaw said:

Uva has sucked at football for decades. They bring nothing to the B1G other than possible location. TV Contracts primarily pay out on football TV ratings.  So uva doesn't really move the b1g any closer to the SEC. All it would do is give them a new market , which they probably already  have  tv views because the dc/Virginia  area is close to Maryland and Pennsylvania. 

B1G isn't desperate for another power football program. UVA gives them a boost in other sports. And OSU, Michigan, Penn State, USC, Oregon, etc., need to beat up on someone besides each other. And they don't need to "move closer to the SEC," they're already ahead of the SEC by a couple million per school per year.

[Bear]

2 hours ago, Peatearpan said:

USF to B1G - “Listen, we’ll join right now and have AAU status. Our football and basketball programs are on an upswing. There is investment in the athletic facilities. Our city is blowing up. Take it or leave it.”

Heads in Oviedo would explode

[Bear]

10 minutes ago, GoBulls84 said:

So they put out the 6-6 model (yay G5s have a chance!), then pretended they were killing the Pac (so they could cut to 5+7 with this idea that it's now P4) while also giving them a chance to maintain their status. Pac will take on the MW all under the P12 moniker, then we still have a P5 and now the G_ don't get a guaranteed seat and will inevitably still be left out of the dance.

If you think this is a wild conspiracy theory that used the "death" of the Pac to reduce the number of guaranteed conference winners while simultaneously gonna let the Pac keep their autonomy status, then you haven't been paying attention the last 15-20 years. They'll continue to shut out the current have nots, because they don't want them getting any of that sweet sweet CFP pie.

I did worry about this, as well. 

I just hate the structure of FBS... far from a meritocracy. 

[UCF_rustbucket]

11 minutes ago, GoBulls84 said:

So they put out the 6-6 model (yay G5s have a chance!), then pretended they were killing the Pac (so they could cut to 5+7 with this idea that it's now P4) while also giving them a chance to maintain their status. Pac will take on the MW all under the P12 moniker, then we still have a P5 and now the G_ don't get a guaranteed seat and will inevitably still be left out of the dance.

If you think this is a wild conspiracy theory that used the "death" of the Pac to reduce the number of guaranteed conference winners while simultaneously gonna let the Pac keep their autonomy status, then you haven't been paying attention the last 15-20 years. They'll continue to shut out the current have nots, because they don't want them getting any of that sweet sweet CFP pie.

I don't think that's what's happening. They're not bringing the PAC along for the ride. They're not going to welcome the new MWC disguised as the PAC as a true P5 because that would mean 12 more teams getting P5 CFP payout and slicing their pie further. The new PAC MWC merger will be more MWC than PAC. It'll remain a G5 conference. 

They may get a boost the first few years since OSU and WSU have been built up with P5 resources. But after a couple of years being G5s, I can't see them being that much better than any other MWC team.

The move to 5+7 was about making sure the G5 weren't given a 2nd free slot. The powers that be only planned for 1 mercy spot.

[Jim Johnson]

22 minutes ago, GoBulls84 said:

So they put out the 6-6 model (yay G5s have a chance!), then pretended they were killing the Pac (so they could cut to 5+7 with this idea that it's now P4) while also giving them a chance to maintain their status. Pac will take on the MW all under the P12 moniker, then we still have a P5 and now the G_ don't get a guaranteed seat and will inevitably still be left out of the dance.

If you think this is a wild conspiracy theory that used the "death" of the Pac to reduce the number of guaranteed conference winners while simultaneously gonna let the Pac keep their autonomy status, then you haven't been paying attention the last 15-20 years. They'll continue to shut out the current have nots, because they don't want them getting any of that sweet sweet CFP pie.

The 5-7 is only for 2024 and 2025... so the PAC will not be more than two teams, and will not get an AQ.

By the time the MWC and PAC2 do something, the new CFP contract ... which may or may not have any AQ teams... will apply.