Triple B Posted December 4, 2023 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,736 Reputation: 10,960 Days Won: 425 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted December 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nebolsky said: If ACC has a mass egress to the B12 and backfills with AAC schools, is it in USF’s best interest to join the ACC if we get the call? If there's anyone left, absolutely .... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFsurfer Posted December 4, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 1 Content Count: 33 Reputation: 20 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/18/2021 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Interesting take/prediction. Wilner – Vision for the future of Pac-12 football: It’s 2033, and the conference has reformed with the old guard SPORTS360AZ.COM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Matrix Posted December 4, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 604 Content Count: 16,501 Reputation: 2,951 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted December 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Outlaw said: YEP Liberty and UTSA should have been the only adds. Also Troy & App St Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCF_rustbucket Posted December 4, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 1 Content Count: 414 Reputation: 202 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/25/2017 Share Posted December 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Triple B said: If there's anyone left, absolutely .... Right. Even if it's only a couple, the alternative is being left behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roaming Bull Posted December 4, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 64 Content Count: 9,756 Reputation: 2,174 Days Won: 25 Joined: 09/20/2014 Share Posted December 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Cat941 said: Mhver3 is back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBulls84 Posted December 4, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 43 Content Count: 3,899 Reputation: 871 Days Won: 8 Joined: 12/10/2006 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, Cat941 said: LOL. FSU already had one foot out the door. This doesn't change anything in that regard. And the Big 12's current playoff representative is headed to the SEC next year. There can't seriously be anybody amongst those schools that feel like being in the Big 12 will be demonstrably better than the ACC after FSU and Clemson leave. They're going to dissolve the GOR and forego the hundreds of millions in buyout money from FSU and Clemson? Edited December 4, 2023 by GoBulls84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gismo Posted December 4, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 417 Content Count: 9,688 Reputation: 1,237 Days Won: 8 Joined: 09/24/2009 Share Posted December 4, 2023 14 hours ago, Cat941 said: This is the exact reason the playoff committee snubbed FSU, to assert P2 dominance and accelerate the departure of ACC teams to the Big10 and SEC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roaming Bull Posted December 4, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 64 Content Count: 9,756 Reputation: 2,174 Days Won: 25 Joined: 09/20/2014 Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 hour ago, GoBulls84 said: LOL. FSU already had one foot out the door. This doesn't change anything in that regard. And the Big 12's current playoff representative is headed to the SEC next year. There can't seriously be anybody amongst those schools that feel like being in the Big 12 will be demonstrably better than the ACC after FSU and Clemson leave. They're going to dissolve the GOR and forego the hundreds of millions in buyout money from FSU and Clemson? Agreed. That post is asinine. No way those schools want to move down to the B12. They may have reached out to whoever is left in the B12 to see if they want to come over to the ACC though. The smart play for those schools is to collect the money from whoever leaves, then do whatever their hearts desire. If dissolution to create a new conference is what they want pop off sis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USF_Bullsharks Posted December 4, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 11 Content Count: 883 Reputation: 481 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/24/2021 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Imagine anyone thinking the ACC will vote to dissolve after watching the P12 actually implode. You think schools like Rutgers, Wake Forest, BC, Duke, NCSt, VaTech, GaTech, and Pitt think that's a good idea? There are three types of schools in the ACC, those with big enough brands to join a P2 (FSU, Clemson, UNC), those who are fringe hopefuls who would need to sell their soul for an invite ala SMU (Miami, VaTech, UVA, Louisville, NCSt, Duke, GaTech?), and those who do not really stand a chance at anything else ala WSU/OSU. The B12 went down this route and got a sweetheart media extension to let OUT out of the conference early. The P12 couldn't get a media deal, period. Why would anyone want to test the market right now? Each conference gets +$80MM starting next season from CFPlayoff tv contract. And the B12 doesn't even have a network...? What am I missing? That doesn't even include the buyout that would be owed to the ACC by any team who leaves, which is insurmountable. Amortizing $300MM will not be offset by an extra $15-30MM/year in SEC/B1G conference revenue. Highly doubt FSU/UNC/Clem get out of the ACC until the buyout is reasonable - might be another 5-8 years before then (coincidentally when the next round of negotiations begins with B1G/SEC tv partners). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lewis Posted December 4, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 18 Content Count: 2,921 Reputation: 2,352 Days Won: 33 Joined: 09/25/2013 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Rutgers is in the B1G 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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