puc86 Posted September 12, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted September 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, Bull Dozer said: I would, we're not exactly flush with cash as an athletics department and going indy would only exacerbate the $$ problems. It would kill the program Also name a successful program that's indy that isn't the flagship university of a major religion or a service academy. I'll wait Just because no one is bold enough to try it in today’s climate doesn’t make it impossible, I would argue it is now easier to make the jump then it was when half of the college world was independent in the early nineties. If not for cable tv conferences wouldn’t have become as pervasive and cable tv is going the way of the dodo bird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted September 12, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Just now, NewEnglandBull said: British Red Coats are like USF...all that promise and they under performed... We just need to resort to guerrilla warfare, lining up in open fields wearing giant red targets and hoping you shoot first or the other guy misses is dumb. We need to be swift and cunning and not part of a lumbering unit of idiots relying on old ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted September 12, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Author Share Posted September 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, puc86 said: We just need to resort to guerrilla warfare, lining up in open fields wearing giant red targets and hoping you shoot first or the other guy misses is dumb. We need to be swift and cunning and not part of a lumbering unit of idiots relying on old ideas. Absolutely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted September 12, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted September 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, NewEnglandBull said: Absolutely! So are you ready to shed the patriarchal tyranny that is the AAC? The problem is bigger than CCS , the problem is bigger than USF the problem lies in our captors and we must be free of them to flourish once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Dozer Posted September 13, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 343 Content Count: 13,697 Reputation: 2,041 Days Won: 45 Joined: 09/04/2006 Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, puc86 said: We just need to resort to guerrilla warfare, lining up in open fields wearing giant red targets and hoping you shoot first or the other guy misses is dumb. We need to be swift and cunning and not part of a lumbering unit of idiots relying on old ideas. Cable is but the networks own the digital content. The delivery method is changing but that's it. Network deals for conferences aren't going anywhere. Jumping off a bridge and trying to live is pretty bold but you're still dead after your bold but stupid move. Edited September 13, 2019 by Bull Dozer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted September 13, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Bull Dozer said: Cable is but the networks own the digital content delivery is changing but that's it. Network deals for aren't going anywhere Jumping off a bridge and trying to live is pretty bold but you're still dead after your bold but stupid move. We are already losing money, what do we have to lose? Schedule more 2-1’s with bigger programs, sell more seats for fewer games at home, get more pay days on the road and have better content to sell with bigger names opponents for your home schedule. At worst we would be $15 million in the hole instead of $7.5 million and that’s only if everything completely goes wrong and we don’t make a single penny off of anything, how is losing millions of dollars that much worse and unsustainable than losing millions of dollars. The aac has no upside it’s a guaranteed loser and we need to do something at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Dozer Posted September 13, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 343 Content Count: 13,697 Reputation: 2,041 Days Won: 45 Joined: 09/04/2006 Share Posted September 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, puc86 said: We are already losing money, what do we have to lose? Schedule more 2-1’s with bigger programs, sell more seats for fewer games at home, get more pay days on the road and have better content to sell with bigger names opponents for your home schedule. At worst we would be $15 million in the hole instead of $7.5 million and that’s only if everything completely goes wrong and we don’t make a single penny off of anything, how is losing millions of dollars that much worse and unsustainable than losing millions of dollars. The aac has no upside it’s a guaranteed loser and we need to do something at some point. Independence is a death sentence no matter what your delusions say. You're also ignoring the trend of P5 schools moving towards playing only P5 confeneces and coaches like Saban are pushing the game that way. I know you care about CJL more than those program buy your literally suggesting we kill thus program. They program IS sustainable in the AAC no matter what your delusions say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted September 13, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Just now, Bull Dozer said: Independence is a death sentence no matter what your delusions say. You're also ignoring the trend of P5 schools moving towards playing only P5 confeneces and coaches like Saban are pushing the game that way. I know you care about CJL more than those program buy your literally suggesting we kill thus program. They program IS sustainable in the AAC no matter what your delusions say. The attendance and budget seem to beg to differ with that opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted September 13, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Author Share Posted September 13, 2019 32 minutes ago, puc86 said: So are you ready to shed the patriarchal tyranny that is the AAC? The problem is bigger than CCS , the problem is bigger than USF the problem lies in our captors and we must be free of them to flourish once again. Let me think about it........having this kind of power is quiet overwhelming... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Dozer Posted September 13, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 343 Content Count: 13,697 Reputation: 2,041 Days Won: 45 Joined: 09/04/2006 Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, puc86 said: The attendance and budget seem to beg to differ with that opinion. There's a reason why schools aren't tripping over themselves to be go indy for those buckets of cash. There are no buckets it's a fools errand. Pucs ego and his fee fees telling him he's better than This conference are not a legitment reason to kill this program. Also, good luck filling out your schedule with payday games considering schools schedules are filled for literally years and the AAC would have no reason to allow us to stay in the conference once we announced the move. Also this is doesn't even take into consideration sports other than football. You're cutting off your nose and to spite your face. The AAC again would have no reason to allow those sports to stay Edited September 13, 2019 by Bull Dozer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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