JTrue Posted November 12, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted November 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, Bullrush33 said: Really because the other 49 don’t teach intelligent design! So who has the problem? Noah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HornHead Posted November 12, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 1 Content Count: 78 Reputation: 29 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/22/2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Just citing the records of CJL's teams is completely ignoring the context of how he built this program. I don't know how anybody expected Big East championships after just a few seasons of playing football. CJL is the best coach USF has ever had, followed by CWT. And yes, we should jump at the opportunity to rehire him if we were serious about winning, but I understand that won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullsfan27 Posted November 12, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 193 Content Count: 5,262 Reputation: 547 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/26/2014 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Leavitt won't ever return here unless we invite him to open our brand new OCS by honoring his contributions to the program. He won't ever coach here again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted November 12, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 42 minutes ago, HornHead said: Just citing the records of CJL's teams is completely ignoring the context of how he built this program. I don't know how anybody expected Big East championships after just a few seasons of playing football. CJL is the best coach USF has ever had, followed by CWT. And yes, we should jump at the opportunity to rehire him if we were serious about winning, but I understand that won't happen. What exactly did they win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HornHead Posted November 12, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 1 Content Count: 78 Reputation: 29 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/22/2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Just now, NewEnglandBull said: What exactly did they win? A lot of games that an ordinary coach wouldn't have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted November 12, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 Just now, HornHead said: A lot of games that an ordinary coach wouldn't have No championships...at the end many people were pissed he was here. Most romanticize his time here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HornHead Posted November 12, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 1 Content Count: 78 Reputation: 29 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/22/2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Just now, NewEnglandBull said: No championships...at the end many people were pissed he was here. Most romanticize his time here. Considering our jumps in competition every few years and how young the program is, that is a very unrealistic expectation. If you told me Team A formed in 1997 and ascended all the way to one of the top leagues in the country and had the track record we did, I'd be shocked and wow'd. People who criticize him don't realize how hard that is to build a brand, and bring in recruits who don't even recognize you as a big name school yet. He put us on the map and did that. Asking for a Big East championship after what he was doing is being a spoiled baby. We can't afford a coach who accomplished what he did one or two speed bump years? it has to be every year that he improves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HornHead Posted November 12, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 1 Content Count: 78 Reputation: 29 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/22/2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Don't forget the year that Matt Grothe tore his ACL was our best shot. Maybe we are having a whole different discussion if that doesn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaUSFBull Posted November 12, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 263 Content Count: 24,750 Reputation: 3,107 Days Won: 87 Joined: 12/15/2009 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 hour ago, JTrue said: Noah? The Great Flood is a nearly universally accepted event, so other than the problem of the ark that he built, I don't think it was Noah's problem. I think you'd have to go further back than that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted November 12, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, HornHead said: Considering our jumps in competition every few years and how young the program is, that is a very unrealistic expectation. If you told me Team A formed in 1997 and ascended all the way to one of the top leagues in the country and had the track record we did, I'd be shocked and wow'd. People who criticize him don't realize how hard that is to build a brand, and bring in recruits who don't even recognize you as a big name school yet. He put us on the map and did that. Asking for a Big East championship after what he was doing is being a spoiled baby. We can't afford a coach who accomplished what he did one or two speed bump years? it has to be every year that he improves? He was a good creator not sure he is the guy to take teams to the next level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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