Why Sterlin Gilbert WILL NOT Change His System - Charlie Strong

[deadudea]

You're right, it won't chang

 

 

Edited October 30, 2017 by Brad
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[Bulls On Parade]

This offense needs to be wide open all game no matter what.

Ccs wants to win with easy runs up middle and a few easy passes..that worked vs bad teams but vs good it wont.

[The Sheriff]

The high school head coach I've talked to in Texas that coached against Gilbert indicated his offense looks nothing like what he ran so successfully at stops prior to Charlie Strong. Gilbert took a dormant high school program in football and made them contenders. It's not like high school football in most states - Texans take high school football pretty seriously in these parts. I'm just wondering if he's being bottled up too much by a head coach set in his ways? Just my two cents...

[BucsandBulls]

I don't know you all can see us pass 38 times for 300+ yds in this game and claim Gilbert didn't change anything at all. 

The run game will always be a part of the offense even if it isn't be effective because that is what keeps the defense honest. And truthfully in the second half the run game was actually working pretty well. If it was up to the majority we would have passed it 70+ times and had 4 ints and about 10 sacks.

Now here is what I would like to see. Change about 5 playcalls a game. Give me 1-2 rb screens and 2-3 qb sprint out run/pass options on key 3rd/4th and shorts. That's it. Keep it simple. 

[Bull94]

2 hours ago, Bulls On Parade said:

It wouldnt shock me if Gilbert wanted to call a different game than being allowed....CCS is boring and  Gilberts offense sounds fun. 

You will watch us run on first down and lose 3 yards and like it.

hey we just take what the defense gives us

[GaUSFBull]

2 minutes ago, Bull94 said:

hey we just take what the defense gives us

Yep.  The defense gives us a wall and we take the ball back 3 yards.  

[BucsandBulls]

2 minutes ago, Bull94 said:

hey we just take what the defense gives us

Okay armchair quarterback. We punted 6 times in the first half and 3 times in the second half. Want to guess how many of those had a run up the middle on 1st down?

3. That's right. I'll wait while you check the game log. Of the other 6? 2 were outside sweeps which failed miserably for a loss of 5 each time. And the other 4 were either incomplete or sacks. 

Selective memory is a wonderful thing when trying to prove yourself right.....

 

[Bull94]

17 minutes ago, BucsandBulls said:

Okay armchair quarterback. We punted 6 times in the first half and 3 times in the second half. Want to guess how many of those had a run up the middle on 1st down?

3. That's right. I'll wait while you check the game log. Of the other 6? 2 were outside sweeps which failed miserably for a loss of 5 each time. And the other 4 were either incomplete or sacks. 

Selective memory is a wonderful thing when trying to prove yourself right.....

 

where was i trying to prove anything? It's charlie strong's quote.

33% of the plays were runs up the middle according to your numbers. not an insignificant amount.

 

rough look, 22 runs on first down for a total of 15 yards. 34 first down plays

 

65% runs for .68 ypc

 

2 turnovers on downs both runs  for no gain

Edited October 30, 2017 by Bull94

[BucsandBulls]

2 minutes ago, Bull94 said:

where was i trying to prove anything? It's charlie strong's quote.

33% of the plays were runs up the middle according to your numbers. not an insignificant amount.

 

rough look, 22 runs on first down for a total of 15 yards. 34 first down plays

 

65% runs for .68 ypc

I would have liked more production on 1st down. 100%. But to hammer on Charlie's quote we would have to go back and rewatch every first down play and see what defense they were in. I'm sure we ran it a couple times when they loaded the box, we also passed a few times when they dropped 8 into coverage.

As far as your stat...the two biggest of those losing plays were runs to the outside. Something people on here had been clamoring for. And your stat is skewed because sacks are counted as running plays in college football as well. The best thing about a run up the middle is the limited downside which can kill a drive. 

We tried getting creative (outside run, pass) on 1st down and 6 times it failed us. That will make an OC stop getting fancy on 1st down real fast.

 

[OcalaBull2]

11 minutes ago, Bull94 said:

where was i trying to prove anything? It's charlie strong's quote.

33% of the plays were runs up the middle according to your numbers. not an insignificant amount.

 

rough look, 22 runs on first down for a total of 15 yards. 34 first down plays

 

65% runs for .68 ypc

 

2 turnovers on downs both runs  for no gain