OcalaBull2 Posted September 10, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 74 Content Count: 2,322 Reputation: 775 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/02/2016 Share Posted September 10, 2017 41 minutes ago, Gismo said: Taggart's offense is much better than Strong's. What he is running at Oregon looks a little different only because he doesn't have a running QB but he has still called some effective QB carries. He has is QB doing more over the middle passes than we saw from a Flowers. We still see a similar rushing attack and also a lot of screens and pre-snap motion. It's obvious he is using his playmakers to their strengths. Putting up 42 points in the first half. Second half wasn't as great a performance but breaking out at the openeing of the game as Taggart does is a great way to win. Watching Oregon now with Taggart and Leavitt is way more entertaining than USFs crap offense that struggles against and FCS team. Can't argue that. Our offense now has been very boring to watch. Last season I felt the complete opposite. I couldn't wait until we got the ball because we found ways to move it down the field way more efficiently. We DO need to start catching the ball better, but the predictable "run, run, pass on 3rd down" scheme is much easier to cover and figure out from an opposing defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted September 10, 2017 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,737 Reputation: 10,963 Days Won: 425 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted September 10, 2017 55 minutes ago, Who'sYourData? said: Not all of them, obviously. But are you telling me that he never rabbited as soon as he felt a tiny bit of pressure? CWT told him to do that. Obviously they aren't going to call as many QB draws with Herbert at QB, that doesn't make it a different offense, just some percentage of play calls are different and the QB is making different decisions. Huge percentage of different play calls. Along with the qb's running ability being utilized totally different, more down the field pass plays are called as opposed to a healthy use of the bubble screen and jet sweeps. If you want to call it the same offense because some of the same plays were used in both, doesn't matter how they're used , I'll agree ..... but then the offense that Gilbert's running is basically the same as the one we had last year because pretty much every play in the SBU game was used last year, just not with the same philosophy. I guess, bottom line to me, is different philosophies equal different offenses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted September 10, 2017 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,737 Reputation: 10,963 Days Won: 425 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted September 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Gismo said: What he is running at Oregon looks a little different only because he doesn't have a running QB but he has still called some effective QB carries. He's called 2 effective QB carries play in 2 games (11 yds and 20 yds). The other 7 times the qb has run the ball averaged 1.7/carry .... not very effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who'sYourData? Posted September 11, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 410 Content Count: 19,525 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 24 Joined: 09/01/2006 Share Posted September 11, 2017 9 hours ago, Triple B said: Huge percentage of different play calls. Along with the qb's running ability being utilized totally different, more down the field pass plays are called as opposed to a healthy use of the bubble screen and jet sweeps. If you want to call it the same offense because some of the same plays were used in both, doesn't matter how they're used , I'll agree ..... but then the offense that Gilbert's running is basically the same as the one we had last year because pretty much every play in the SBU game was used last year, just not with the same philosophy. I guess, bottom line to me, is different philosophies equal different offenses. Come on. You know very well that the offense he ran in WKU and the offense he brought with him is completely different in all respects than what he is running in Oregon. He is running the offense that Kinnan put in, but making different play calls because he has different talent. This is not the Taggart offense, it is the Kinnan offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted September 11, 2017 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,737 Reputation: 10,963 Days Won: 425 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted September 11, 2017 12 minutes ago, Who'sYourData? said: This is not the Taggart offense, it is the Kinnan offense. Don't forget the real mastermind ..... Harlan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ionbull Posted September 11, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 8 Content Count: 2,610 Reputation: 635 Days Won: 3 Joined: 12/17/2015 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Imagine what he could do with an athlete like Ironsides. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted September 11, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted September 11, 2017 oregon's defense looked porous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TromBull12 Posted September 11, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 19 Content Count: 953 Reputation: 607 Days Won: 6 Joined: 09/28/2014 Share Posted September 11, 2017 3 hours ago, smazza said: oregon's defense looked porous Does it take longer to build a defense or has Leavitt lost a step? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who'sYourData? Posted September 11, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 410 Content Count: 19,525 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 24 Joined: 09/01/2006 Share Posted September 11, 2017 12 hours ago, Triple B said: Don't forget the real mastermind ..... Harlan. I didn't think the obvious needed to be stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bausfkid Posted September 11, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 295 Content Count: 4,131 Reputation: 818 Days Won: 15 Joined: 06/20/2005 Share Posted September 11, 2017 So two victories in two games are not enough? We want to score 60 points a game or somehow the wins are diminished? Go Bulls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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