Why does the TBT...

[BullsFanInTX]

report as our attendance the actual butts in seats.  Every other team in America and every other reporter in America uses "announced attendance", which for every single program is significantly higher.

Look, I know our attendance is terrible, pathetic, and bad.  So why does the TBT make it look even worse compared to every single program in the country, which uses announced attendance (which for us is usually in the 30K range).

Every single program in the American Conf. uses and reports announced attendance.  They are all fluffed numbers.  I could provide article after article about how they come up with announced numbers.  This has been well documented all over the country.  Whether programs should fluff numbers is open for debate, but EVERYONE does it.  So why is it that the TBT is the only organization in the country that insists on using our "actual" attendance in their reports.

Enlighten....

  

 

[usfbullrider]

Do all stadiums have turnstiles?

[GaUSFBull]

TBT hates us and wants us to give up football.  

[2000bull]

only one fix - OCS

[BDYZR]

only one fix - OCS

Two fixes, winning and it wouldn't look so bad.

[2000bull]

Two fixes, winning and it wouldn't look so bad.

well, there's that too

[BullsFanInTX]

The point is, EVERYONE uses fluffed announced attendance numbers...NFL, MLB, or NCAA College football, not actual turnstile numbers.  Everyone.  If they say they aren't, they're lying.  And in every paper, the announced attendance is what gets reported.  Except for the Tampa Bay Times.  So, the question is, why? 

 

http://www.latimes.com/la-sp-attendance-082305-story.html

Attendance figures that count tickets sold, not turnstile clicks, make it hard for fans to reconcile what they hear with the empty seats they see

Bill Shaikin, Times Staff Writer

 

In the eighth inning of every home game at Dodger Stadium, the public address announcer invites fans to guess the attendance. On the scoreboard above right field, four choices are displayed, with fans asked to pick the correct one.

The truly correct answer: none of the above.

 

In twists of semantics and accounting, the world of professional sports does not necessarily define "attendance" as "the number of people who attended the event." That can leave fans hearing an attendance figure, staring at sections of empty seats and wondering how to reconcile what they hear with what they see.

That also can leave sponsors wondering how many people their ballpark ads are reaching and leave teams calculating how many millions of dollars they lose when fans buy tickets but don't show up.

 

On July 31, with the St. Louis Cardinals -- the team with the best record in the National League -- in town, the Dodgers announced a crowd of 44,543 on a day the stands appeared closer to half-empty at the 56,000-seat stadium. They also announced attendance of 47,877 for a game three days earlier against the Cincinnati Reds, but huge chunks of the right-field pavilion and the new luxury seats beyond third base were unoccupied, with blocks of empty seats sprinkled throughout each level of the stadium.

The Angels announced sellouts for each game during the Aug. 5-7 series against the last-place Tampa Bay Devil Rays, but vacant seats were not difficult to spot.

 

 

Edited October 7, 2015 by BullsFanInTX

[2000bull]

just to piss you off

[Triple B]

report as our attendance the actual butts in seats.  Every other team in America and every other reporter in America uses "announced attendance", which for every single program is significantly higher.

Look, I know our attendance is terrible, pathetic, and bad.  So why does the TBT make it look even worse compared to every single program in the country, which uses announced attendance (which for us is usually in the 30K range).

Every single program in the American Conf. uses and reports announced attendance.  They are all fluffed numbers.  I could provide article after article about how they come up with announced numbers.  This has been well documented all over the country.  Whether programs should fluff numbers is open for debate, but EVERYONE does it.  So why is it that the TBT is the only organization in the country that insists on using our "actual" attendance in their reports.

Enlighten....

  

 

One theory is that those reporting the attendance saw what taking shots at USF whenever possible did for the career of a local porn stached "journalist". 

One reason most others schools' actual isn't reported is that it isn't made available. 

[BullsFanInTX]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/sportsmoney/2011/05/25/how-sports-attendance-figures-speak-lies/

How Sports Attendance Figures Speak Lies

If you go to a sporting event, somewhere between the time when you get situated and when start heading back for home, you look around at the crowd and take it in. Is the crowd electrified for the home team? Has the town turned out in support? How’s the attendance?

For clubs across the major sports leagues in North America, attendance is one of – if not the – key revenue streams.

But, it’s more.

Have a bunch of sellouts, and it drives sponsorships. Come up short in the NFL, and you have television blackouts. The number reported in Major League Baseball determines factors as it pertains to revenue-sharing.

In other words, attendance is a big deal.

But, here’s the thing: since attendance has become such a key component for sports leagues, the actual idea that it shows how many people are actually at a game is a fantasy.

Edited October 7, 2015 by BullsFanInTX