SilkyJohnson Posted January 26, 2015 Group: UCF Knights Topic Count: 13 Content Count: 98 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/23/2014 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 FWIW - I wish we'd act more like a degree mill, at least for student athlete admissions. Prematurely acting like we were Stanford is half the reason both of our main revenue programs are in the state they're in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karma Posted January 26, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 1 Content Count: 115 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/24/2014 Share Posted January 26, 2015 UCF on the same level academically? They're a degree mill. There's a reason we have more grad students (despite being smaller) and 3x the endowment / research expenditures (... despite being smaller). Get your head out your ass if you think UCF is on a level playing field with us academically. They compare more favorably to FAU and FIU. 16 year old's SAT scores may be negligibly better for UCF, however the research money institutions POUR into USF isn't even close. What's more indicative of academic success? Really, you don't think the endowment has more to do with having a medical school for so long compared to UCF? Truth is, with UCF's Medical City that gap will shrink quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karma Posted January 26, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 1 Content Count: 115 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/24/2014 Share Posted January 26, 2015 UCF on the same level academically? They're a degree mill. There's a reason we have more grad students (despite being smaller) and 3x the endowment / research expenditures (... despite being smaller). Get your head out your ass if you think UCF is on a level playing field with us academically. They compare more favorably to FAU and FIU. 16 year old's SAT scores may be negligibly better for UCF, however the research money institutions POUR into USF isn't even close. What's more indicative of academic success? To me, academic success is your students graduating and going out into the real world and getting good jobs, making good money and giving back to the University. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick1ru2 Posted January 26, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 554 Content Count: 14,411 Reputation: 439 Days Won: 13 Joined: 07/25/2008 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Yeah but CWT recruited the #14 WR in the county. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great 8 Posted January 27, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 69 Content Count: 3,802 Reputation: 372 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/21/2009 Share Posted January 27, 2015 UCF on the same level academically? They're a degree mill. There's a reason we have more grad students (despite being smaller) and 3x the endowment / research expenditures (... despite being smaller). Get your head out your ass if you think UCF is on a level playing field with us academically. They compare more favorably to FAU and FIU. 16 year old's SAT scores may be negligibly better for UCF, however the research money institutions POUR into USF isn't even close. What's more indicative of academic success? Really, you don't think the endowment has more to do with having a medical school for so long compared to UCF? Truth is, with UCF's Medical City that gap will shrink quickly. I'll bite. No, I don't think a medical school is solely responsible for 3x the endowment and/or research expenditures. If it does, you guys are morons for not opening one sooner. We'll see how much the gap actually shrinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great 8 Posted January 27, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 69 Content Count: 3,802 Reputation: 372 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/21/2009 Share Posted January 27, 2015 (edited) UCF on the same level academically? They're a degree mill. There's a reason we have more grad students (despite being smaller) and 3x the endowment / research expenditures (... despite being smaller). Get your head out your ass if you think UCF is on a level playing field with us academically. They compare more favorably to FAU and FIU. 16 year old's SAT scores may be negligibly better for UCF, however the research money institutions POUR into USF isn't even close. What's more indicative of academic success? To me, academic success is your students graduating and going out into the real world and getting good jobs, making good money and giving back to the University. Awesome. Do you have any statistics to give us which shows this? For some anecdotal evidence, I now make 6-figures after graduating from my beloved USF and give back 5-figures every year (through a company match). Endowment size is almost ubiquitously viewed as *the* standard for judging a university. There's a reason Harvard has the largest endowment, why UF has by far the largest endowment in our state, and why UCF is closer to (but still behind) FAU than any of the other major public FL universities. Money talks. Degree mills don't fetch large investments from outside entities nor do they typically have capacity to handle capital as well. You'll need more than flash in the pan success to overtake us in endowment or research expenditures. Good luck with that med school. Edited January 27, 2015 by The Great 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilkyJohnson Posted January 27, 2015 Group: UCF Knights Topic Count: 13 Content Count: 98 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/23/2014 Author Share Posted January 27, 2015 UCF on the same level academically? They're a degree mill. There's a reason we have more grad students (despite being smaller) and 3x the endowment / research expenditures (... despite being smaller). Get your head out your ass if you think UCF is on a level playing field with us academically. They compare more favorably to FAU and FIU. 16 year old's SAT scores may be negligibly better for UCF, however the research money institutions POUR into USF isn't even close. What's more indicative of academic success? To me, academic success is your students graduating and going out into the real world and getting good jobs, making good money and giving back to the University. Awesome. Do you have any statistics to give us which shows this? For some anecdotal evidence, I now make 6-figures after graduating from my beloved USF and give back 5-figures every year (through a company match). Endowment size is almost ubiquitously viewed as *the* standard for judging a university. There's a reason Harvard has the largest endowment, why UF has by far the largest endowment in our state, and why UCF is closer to (but still behind) FAU than any of the other major public FL universities. Money talks. Degree mills don't fetch large investments from outside entities nor do they typically have capacity to handle capital as well. You'll need more than flash in the pan success to overtake us in endowment or research expenditures. Good luck with that med school. You sound like a smart guy. Our endowment is hilariously small, however that stadium beach bar, tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted January 27, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted January 27, 2015 UCF on the same level academically? They're a degree mill. There's a reason we have more grad students (despite being smaller) and 3x the endowment / research expenditures (... despite being smaller). Get your head out your ass if you think UCF is on a level playing field with us academically. They compare more favorably to FAU and FIU. 16 year old's SAT scores may be negligibly better for UCF, however the research money institutions POUR into USF isn't even close. What's more indicative of academic success? To me, academic success is your students graduating and going out into the real world and getting good jobs, making good money and giving back to the University. Awesome. Do you have any statistics to give us which shows this? For some anecdotal evidence, I now make 6-figures after graduating from my beloved USF and give back 5-figures every year (through a company match). Endowment size is almost ubiquitously viewed as *the* standard for judging a university. There's a reason Harvard has the largest endowment, why UF has by far the largest endowment in our state, and why UCF is closer to (but still behind) FAU than any of the other major public FL universities. Money talks. Degree mills don't fetch large investments from outside entities nor do they typically have capacity to handle capital as well. You'll need more than flash in the pan success to overtake us in endowment or research expenditures. Good luck with that med school. You sound like a smart guy. Our endowment is hilariously small, however that stadium beach bar, tho That actually made me laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danm1983 Posted January 27, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 44 Content Count: 2,994 Reputation: 151 Days Won: 4 Joined: 08/20/2009 Share Posted January 27, 2015 UCF on the same level academically? They're a degree mill. There's a reason we have more grad students (despite being smaller) and 3x the endowment / research expenditures (... despite being smaller). Get your head out your ass if you think UCF is on a level playing field with us academically. They compare more favorably to FAU and FIU. 16 year old's SAT scores may be negligibly better for UCF, however the research money institutions POUR into USF isn't even close. What's more indicative of academic success? To me, academic success is your students graduating and going out into the real world and getting good jobs, making good money and giving back to the University. I agree. And I think both schools have improved that dramatically. USF has more medical stuff on the way, but that is an arms race I'm okay with happening, as it benefits many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogeRiver Posted January 27, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 7 Content Count: 119 Reputation: 17 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/2013 Share Posted January 27, 2015 UCF on the same level academically? They're a degree mill. There's a reason we have more grad students (despite being smaller) and 3x the endowment / research expenditures (... despite being smaller). Get your head out your ass if you think UCF is on a level playing field with us academically. They compare more favorably to FAU and FIU. 16 year old's SAT scores may be negligibly better for UCF, however the research money institutions POUR into USF isn't even close. What's more indicative of academic success? To me, academic success is your students graduating and going out into the real world and getting good jobs, making good money and giving back to the University. Awesome. Do you have any statistics to give us which shows this? For some anecdotal evidence, I now make 6-figures after graduating from my beloved USF and give back 5-figures every year (through a company match). Endowment size is almost ubiquitously viewed as *the* standard for judging a university. There's a reason Harvard has the largest endowment, why UF has by far the largest endowment in our state, and why UCF is closer to (but still behind) FAU than any of the other major public FL universities. Money talks. Degree mills don't fetch large investments from outside entities nor do they typically have capacity to handle capital as well. You'll need more than flash in the pan success to overtake us in endowment or research expenditures. Good luck with that med school. You sound like a smart guy. Our endowment is hilariously small, however that stadium beach bar, tho lol'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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