Jarvis Baxter JUCO WR

[Triple B]

It's not like we haven't gotten our fair share of kids who have been turned away from other schools based on academics. Each school has different criteria.

Have we? I really didn't know that ...

[Mama_Bull]

 

It's not like we haven't gotten our fair share of kids who have been turned away from other schools based on academics. Each school has different criteria.

Have we? I really didn't know that ...

 

 

Neither did I.

 

It seems that UL, and Cincy to a lessor extent, feasted on quality players who we denied admission, for one reason or another. I don't think they are losing any sleep over accepting any of them.

 

My thought has always been that if the NCAA accepts them that we should as well. Otherwise, we are at a distinct disadvantage on the playing field against our opponents. 

[Triple B]

 

 

It's not like we haven't gotten our fair share of kids who have been turned away from other schools based on academics. Each school has different criteria.

Have we? I really didn't know that ...

 

 

Neither did I.

 

It seems that UL, and Cincy to a lessor extent, feasted on quality players who we denied admission, for one reason or another. I don't think they are losing any sleep over accepting any of them.

 

My thought has always been that if the NCAA accepts them that we should as well. Otherwise, we are at a distinct disadvantage on the playing field against our opponents. 

 

 

I always think of Waverly Austin and what maybe could have been ...

[NCBull]

If USF only accepts 9 credit hours over the summer, but another allows 12, that does not necessarily mean that we have higher academic standards.

Yesterday, I was reading an article on a Florida Gulf Coast JUCO Basketball signee. The NCAA requires a 2.5 GPA.

FGCU reviewed his transcript and denied him admission. He then was accepted into PITT which supposedly has very high academic standards. I presume that PITT reviewed that same transcript but allowed more of his courses with the better grades. We've had similar situations in the past.

The bottom line is that we have denied admission to some quality players in both FB and BB, to supposedly quality schools and I don't find any comfort in the academic standards argument.

He failed to meet even the bare minimum requirements for admission to the university. May not be "academic standards" in its traditional sense, but if you are going to have a set-in-stone rule that purportedly applies to everyone, it is important to apply it evenly across the board.

This is an ignorant statement. NO academic standard is applied across the board at ANY university...they are ALWAYS having to meet various quotas for all sorts of reasons. And yes, a great athlete is one of those. Mama is right--USF needs to get its **** together and stop denying entry to students who can get into an AAU school.

I'm not sure of your point. Doesn't the mere fact that they turned him away for this pretty clearly show this isn't something they budge on?

As I pointed out a few posts above, I'm aware that athletes are generally treated differently. But we aren't talking about just dipping below an average GPA, or meeting a quota... that happens often and everywhere. But this is a basic, measurable rule.

It's not like we haven't gotten our fair share of kids who have been turned away from other schools based on academics. Each school has different criteria.

I think you're right that they didn't budge. My point is they could have. And our so-called high standards would have been just fine overall.

[WWMJD]

 

It's not like we haven't gotten our fair share of kids who have been turned away from other schools based on academics. Each school has different criteria.

Have we? I really didn't know that ...

 

 

I can think of several over the last couple years, and I know there's more. Swanson (admitted, played, couldn't hack it), Calloway (admitted, played, couldn't hack it), Kendall Sawyer (admitted, redshirted, couldn't hack it). Swanson, for instance, had offers from LSU and I think Bama that were pulled due to academics. There is a reason these guys fall to us, and it's not lack of talent.

[Triple B]

 

 

It's not like we haven't gotten our fair share of kids who have been turned away from other schools based on academics. Each school has different criteria.

Have we? I really didn't know that ...

 

 

I can think of several over the last couple years, and I know there's more. Swanson (admitted, played, couldn't hack it), Calloway (admitted, played, couldn't hack it), Kendall Sawyer (admitted, redshirted, couldn't hack it). Swanson, for instance, had offers from LSU and I think Bama that were pulled due to academics. There is a reason these guys fall to us, and it's not lack of talent.

 

 

My bad. I misunderstood what you said. I thought you were referring to cases like Baxter and Austin, where players were accepted elsewhere but then turned away and ended up here.

[WWMJD]

My bad. I misunderstood what you said. I thought you were referring to cases like Baxter and Austin, where players were accepted elsewhere but then turned away and ended up here.

 

 

Yeah, my point is only that we also stretch on our fair share of kids. There has to be some balance, and I don't think the administration has been particularly unreasonable over the past couple years. For every guy that is turned away and succeeds elsewhere, there are several who flame out. The ones that sting just tend to stick in our mind a bit more (it's Dexter McCluster for me... oh, what could have been).

[SANJAY]

Dexter wasn't an academic issue here. He was questionable, our staff worked with him to get him eligible and when he obtained the appropriate test score he flipped to Ole Miss. It happens.

[WWMJD]

Ah, ok. Still burns though.

[Mama_Bull]

Dexter wasn't an academic issue here. He was questionable, our staff worked with him to get him eligible and when he obtained the appropriate test score he flipped to Ole Miss. It happens.

 

I seem to recall that he said he had a dream which made him decommit from USF and commit to Ole Miss.

 

I thought I could find a related article on that, but haven't been successful.

 

There was a similar "dream" involvement with another commit. It might have been his grandma's dream. LOL

 

Then there was the crazy story with the duel sport star (Track/FB) HS player whose mom wanted him to sign with USF and she refused to sign his LOI to attend LSU because of  a voodoo spell. Ultimately his father (without asking the mother) signed for him to go there.