BuckeyeBull9257 Posted September 2, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 1 Content Count: 344 Reputation: 30 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/07/2013 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Lou Holtz is one of the better ESPN commentators. He doesn't get too wrapped up in their hype of one team or another (or conference for that matter). The only teams he favors are ND and SC (for obvious reasons). He gives everyone a fair chance. Lou Holtz is reading whatever someone tells him to read. He only favors ND and SC cause they are the only two teams he can remember week in and week out. Guy was a great coach and even a decent broadcaster for a while. Now he is a shining example of how you can stay in your position far too long. Lou Holtz often has clashes of opinion with other commentators on who is good and who isn't. He's usually right too. He favors ND and South Carolina because he coached at both schools for a good while. But he also makes those biases known to the public. He likes old school matchups and he doesn't always buy into the dominance of the SEC or the Power 5. He gives teams a fair chance. I'll always like him better than anyone else on that network. At least he's fair and honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superhippy Posted September 2, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 9 Content Count: 315 Reputation: 41 Days Won: 3 Joined: 10/19/2013 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I actually agree with Mark May here more then Holtz. Bama played a West Virginia team that went 4-8 last year and only beat them by 10. On top of that Clint Trickett threw the ball all over them and racked up 365 yards. Stack that with the fact that they lost to Oklahoma in the Sugar Bowl last year, and I don't think it's a stretch by any means to say that Bama should not be penciled into the playoff by any means. Same deal with Ohio State. They played a Navy team that went 9-4 last season and nearly every single one of their wins were against teams that didn't make a bowl game. Ohio State was losing late in the 3rd quarter. I wouldn't call them a lock to get into the title game either. You can evaluate a team after one week. It doesn't mean you can project a teams entire season but you can no doubt see where teams weaknesses and strengths are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted September 2, 2014 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,612 Content Count: 74,584 Reputation: 10,849 Days Won: 423 Joined: 11/25/2005 Author Share Posted September 2, 2014 I actually agree with Mark May here more then Holtz. Bama played a West Virginia team that went 4-8 last year and only beat them by 10. On top of that Clint Trickett threw the ball all over them and racked up 365 yards. Stack that with the fact that they lost to Oklahoma in the Sugar Bowl last year, and I don't think it's a stretch by any means to say that Bama should not be penciled into the playoff by any means. Same deal with Ohio State. They played a Navy team that went 9-4 last season and nearly every single one of their wins were against teams that didn't make a bowl game. Ohio State was losing late in the 3rd quarter. I wouldn't call them a lock to get into the title game either. You can evaluate a team after one week. It doesn't mean you can project a teams entire season but you can no doubt see where teams weaknesses and strengths are. That's all Dr Holtz was saying, and he was a lot more right than May, which was just useless ESPN fill-in babble. Auburn started out last year having a lot more trouble with Wazzu that Bama had with WVU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superhippy Posted September 2, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 9 Content Count: 315 Reputation: 41 Days Won: 3 Joined: 10/19/2013 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I actually agree with Mark May here more then Holtz. Bama played a West Virginia team that went 4-8 last year and only beat them by 10. On top of that Clint Trickett threw the ball all over them and racked up 365 yards. Stack that with the fact that they lost to Oklahoma in the Sugar Bowl last year, and I don't think it's a stretch by any means to say that Bama should not be penciled into the playoff by any means. Same deal with Ohio State. They played a Navy team that went 9-4 last season and nearly every single one of their wins were against teams that didn't make a bowl game. Ohio State was losing late in the 3rd quarter. I wouldn't call them a lock to get into the title game either. You can evaluate a team after one week. It doesn't mean you can project a teams entire season but you can no doubt see where teams weaknesses and strengths are. That's all Dr Holtz was saying, and he was a lot more right than May, which was just useless ESPN fill-in babble. Auburn started out last year having a lot more trouble with Wazzu that Bama had with WVU. I agree. I don't think either were really wrong. If you told me even after week 10 that Auburn would have made the title game still having to play Georgia, Bama, and Mizzou I would have thought you were crazy, but they pulled it off. The only team that I have penciled into the title game is Florida State and I'm not even sure about them. If I was betting on it, I would say they lose to either Notre Dame or Louisville, and if they lose to Louisville it will keep them out of the ACC title game, which would be a killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptorcj Posted September 2, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 18 Content Count: 8,878 Reputation: 1,266 Days Won: 28 Joined: 07/12/2013 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Lou Holtz is one of the better ESPN commentators. He doesn't get too wrapped up in their hype of one team or another (or conference for that matter). The only teams he favors are ND and SC (for obvious reasons). He gives everyone a fair chance. He used to favor us, too. Even over ND, but also for obvious reasons. I think he's a great feature commentator in CFB. Having spent his life in football, I think it's awesome that he's able to laugh at it and just shrug his shoulders sometimes--that's realistic and humble at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USoFlo Posted September 2, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 26 Content Count: 334 Reputation: 50 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/2007 Share Posted September 2, 2014 This thread needs more Lu Holtz bumblebee quotes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullFan98 Posted September 2, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 258 Content Count: 7,780 Reputation: 328 Days Won: 7 Joined: 08/13/2010 Share Posted September 2, 2014 We have a knack for playing to the level of our opponents. I generally agree that it is hard to measure a team by the first game of the season. However, in our situation we are still dealing with a quarterback situation, and without improvement, I cannot imagine this is going to be a good season. Thank G-D for Mack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted September 3, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,896 Content Count: 66,077 Reputation: 2,431 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted September 3, 2014 one of my old girlfriends said hotlz looks like a penius a funny line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAMABULL Posted September 3, 2014 Group: Bull Backers Topic Count: 30 Content Count: 613 Reputation: 93 Days Won: 2 Joined: 10/04/2005 Share Posted September 3, 2014 SMAZZA YOU HAVE FUNNY GIRLFRIENDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaUSFBull Posted September 3, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 263 Content Count: 24,750 Reputation: 3,107 Days Won: 87 Joined: 12/15/2009 Share Posted September 3, 2014 one of my old girlfriends said hotlz looks like a penius a funny line LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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