Phil Steele: Best Home Field Advantage

[JupiterBull]

 

 

 

 

This is complete nonsense. UCF tied with Auburn and Notre Dame and ahead of Texas? Credibility gone.

Agreed. I went to a WVU game at Texas, as my ears hurt from the shear volume of fans. Loudest I've ever attended.

UCF wasn't that loud last I went...but that in 2007 or 2008 (the TJ TD OT catch). Not only that, but UCF fans were famous for leaving early. I suppose it's gotten much better with recent success, but no way a 40K+ stadium is Top 25 for home field ad (heck, they beat our worst team ever by 3 points...in a game where I suspect fans were VERY loud & hostile.

That said, an OCS would be cool, and get more students involved. But if we start winning again, and putting butts in Ray Jay, we will climb any list (yet, we still have some very docile fans, even in the wild times).

Scan up and watch the video I posted, the stands were wild.

I've been at all the WVU-USF games, so I recall the energy & noise. I remember losing to WVU on their first trip to Ray Jay, and enduring the WVU fans singing country roads (my WVU wife, too!). My first thought was: I hope we never hear that song in Ray Jay again. We almost never did...losing our last game.

I was also at the games in MoTown, and I can assure anyone that WVU stadium is a much bigger advantage than UCF. Not knocking UCF, but 21 is WAY too high.

So you think at the height of the program, so far, that the USF stadium atmosphere should be ranked low as it is on his poll? That is the question. Is the atmosphere is not pretty awesome when it's packed and USF has got a good team? Sure this last couple years with the team sucking and everyone staying at home, it's sucked. But it would've sucked in an on-campus stadium too. I don't think kicking a horse when it's down and saying oh we need a new stadium because look at the rankings when the team has been sucking is a fair assessment. It would've been ranked low even if there was a stadium.

 

Slick, you're putting words in my mouth.  This poll is based on current state.  I'm merely saying that the last fews years, Ray Jay hasn't been much of a home field advantage.  All I said was a OCS would be cool, and get more students involved (which I think helps with noise and energy).

 

I think the poll is silly.  Far too many issues to note (I was in UConn last season, and the crown was pretty placid, yet they are ranked much higher).

 

Again, I never the points you're attaching to me.  I'm saying that CURRENT state, we aren't that high on the list.  I'm not kicking a horse...I love this horse.  I am this horse.

[slick1ru2]

 

 

 

 

 

This is complete nonsense. UCF tied with Auburn and Notre Dame and ahead of Texas? Credibility gone.

Agreed. I went to a WVU game at Texas, as my ears hurt from the shear volume of fans. Loudest I've ever attended.

UCF wasn't that loud last I went...but that in 2007 or 2008 (the TJ TD OT catch). Not only that, but UCF fans were famous for leaving early. I suppose it's gotten much better with recent success, but no way a 40K+ stadium is Top 25 for home field ad (heck, they beat our worst team ever by 3 points...in a game where I suspect fans were VERY loud & hostile.

That said, an OCS would be cool, and get more students involved. But if we start winning again, and putting butts in Ray Jay, we will climb any list (yet, we still have some very docile fans, even in the wild times).

Scan up and watch the video I posted, the stands were wild.

I've been at all the WVU-USF games, so I recall the energy & noise. I remember losing to WVU on their first trip to Ray Jay, and enduring the WVU fans singing country roads (my WVU wife, too!). My first thought was: I hope we never hear that song in Ray Jay again. We almost never did...losing our last game.

I was also at the games in MoTown, and I can assure anyone that WVU stadium is a much bigger advantage than UCF. Not knocking UCF, but 21 is WAY too high.

So you think at the height of the program, so far, that the USF stadium atmosphere should be ranked low as it is on his poll? That is the question. Is the atmosphere is not pretty awesome when it's packed and USF has got a good team? Sure this last couple years with the team sucking and everyone staying at home, it's sucked. But it would've sucked in an on-campus stadium too. I don't think kicking a horse when it's down and saying oh we need a new stadium because look at the rankings when the team has been sucking is a fair assessment. It would've been ranked low even if there was a stadium.

 

Slick, you're putting words in my mouth.  This poll is based on current state.  I'm merely saying that the last fews years, Ray Jay hasn't been much of a home field advantage.  All I said was a OCS would be cool, and get more students involved (which I think helps with noise and energy).

 

I think the poll is silly.  Far too many issues to note (I was in UConn last season, and the crown was pretty placid, yet they are ranked much higher).

 

Again, I never the points you're attaching to me.  I'm saying that CURRENT state, we aren't that high on the list.  I'm not kicking a horse...I love this horse.  I am this horse.

 

 

What I'm saying is the best OCS in the world wouldn't have had much sway the past few seasons. How many of the bottom teams have OCS? Even new OCS, even nice OCS? When the team is winning, Ray Jay is rockin. When the team is losing and no one shows up, an OCS still has a lot of bills that need to be paid.

Edited August 26, 2014 by slick1ru2

[JupiterBull]

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is complete nonsense. UCF tied with Auburn and Notre Dame and ahead of Texas? Credibility gone.

Agreed. I went to a WVU game at Texas, as my ears hurt from the shear volume of fans. Loudest I've ever attended.

UCF wasn't that loud last I went...but that in 2007 or 2008 (the TJ TD OT catch). Not only that, but UCF fans were famous for leaving early. I suppose it's gotten much better with recent success, but no way a 40K+ stadium is Top 25 for home field ad (heck, they beat our worst team ever by 3 points...in a game where I suspect fans were VERY loud & hostile.

That said, an OCS would be cool, and get more students involved. But if we start winning again, and putting butts in Ray Jay, we will climb any list (yet, we still have some very docile fans, even in the wild times).

Scan up and watch the video I posted, the stands were wild.

I've been at all the WVU-USF games, so I recall the energy & noise. I remember losing to WVU on their first trip to Ray Jay, and enduring the WVU fans singing country roads (my WVU wife, too!). My first thought was: I hope we never hear that song in Ray Jay again. We almost never did...losing our last game.

I was also at the games in MoTown, and I can assure anyone that WVU stadium is a much bigger advantage than UCF. Not knocking UCF, but 21 is WAY too high.

So you think at the height of the program, so far, that the USF stadium atmosphere should be ranked low as it is on his poll? That is the question. Is the atmosphere is not pretty awesome when it's packed and USF has got a good team? Sure this last couple years with the team sucking and everyone staying at home, it's sucked. But it would've sucked in an on-campus stadium too. I don't think kicking a horse when it's down and saying oh we need a new stadium because look at the rankings when the team has been sucking is a fair assessment. It would've been ranked low even if there was a stadium.

 

Slick, you're putting words in my mouth.  This poll is based on current state.  I'm merely saying that the last fews years, Ray Jay hasn't been much of a home field advantage.  All I said was a OCS would be cool, and get more students involved (which I think helps with noise and energy).

 

I think the poll is silly.  Far too many issues to note (I was in UConn last season, and the crown was pretty placid, yet they are ranked much higher).

 

Again, I never the points you're attaching to me.  I'm saying that CURRENT state, we aren't that high on the list.  I'm not kicking a horse...I love this horse.  I am this horse.

 

 

What I'm saying is the best OCS in the world wouldn't have had much sway the past few seasons. How many of the bottom teams have OCS? Even new OCS, even nice OCS? When the team is winning, Ray Jay is rockin. When the team is losing and no one shows up, an OCS still has a lot of bills that need to be paid.

 

Fair enough.

[Ghost]

This is complete nonsense. UCF tied with Auburn and Notre Dame and ahead of Texas? Credibility gone.

 

lol this. Not that I disagree that UCF's atmosphere is better and that there is really no home field advantage at USF anymore considering we have won like maybe 3 home games in the last two years, but wow. 

[Carolina_Bull]

People think Steele is the messiah when his rankings show love to their favorite team.

 

When his rankings hurt, he is dismissed as a quack.

 

 

I know this much, our home field advantage stinks right now. . . . . but mostly because our teams stink and the fans have made the inexplicable decisions to (1) in large part, not support crappy football and (2) decide not to act like raving lunatics (like the goalmouths in soccer) at football games where we are getting pasted by the likes of FAU, Memphis and McNoose.

[FatDaddyBull]

I can see The Trampoline being voted high on the most likely to collapse in a stiff breeze list or stadium most fans are afraid might collapse.

+1

[Bear]

I guarantee you that UCF's atmosphere will be better than USF's in 2014.

 

 

We do need an OCS. But we can't have one right now. We need to win, bring back in the 2007 fans and then talk about bringing that on campus. 

 

 

 

 

Slick is right though, and OCS would have never cured the past 3 years.... 

[BDYZR]

I guarantee you that UCF's atmosphere will be better than USF's in 2014.

 

 

We do need an OCS. But we can't have one right now. We need to win, bring back in the 2007 fans and then talk about bringing that on campus. 

 

 

 

 

Slick is right though, and OCS would have never cured the past 3 years.... 

IF they continue winning. Before last year they were BEGGING the students to show up.

[BuckeyeBull9257]

I don't normally pick apart things like this, but his formula is tailor made for Ohio State. They  have a large capacity, they sell out, they play cupcakes at home. they win easily  about 5 of his 9 factors.

 

Go to a home LSU game where the atmosphere is thick, the sound deafening and you hate to be the opposing team, and then at Ohio State where the fans  sit on their hands and flash cards all game long. No way  people choose ohio state as a better home field advantage over  a place like LSU, Bammer in my opinion.

 

I don't know how many Ohio State games you've been to, but I've been to many in my lifetime and I can tell you Ohio State has a deafening crowd, an intimidating stadium of 106,000, and one of the most rabid fanbases in the country (as well as the largest).  They play a lot of home games at the beginning of the season.  That's not unusual.  Especially for the nation's largest fanbase.  They have a high demand for game tickets to fill every year and they play a lot of home games to make it happen.  Not all of the games are stellar, but they sell out regardless and give smaller schools a chance to be viewed Nationally. 

But they when they do play big games its as hostile as it gets.

 

Now USF can be loud in RayJay with 40,000+.  But we rarely really see 40,000+.  We need something we can fill to capacity now and have room to expand reasonably in the future.  That was the plan at Ohio State when the Horseshoe was built back in the day, now you can't help but fill it.  Don't shoot too high too soon with an OCS.  It can ruin an atmosphere.

[Superhippy]

Ranking be best home field advantage is completely pointless, just look at the NFL.

 

The Seahawks right now have one of the best 3 home field advantages without a doubt, now that they are an elite team.    When they sucked the consensus was they had one of the worst home field advantages in the league.   The Bucs right now have one of the worst home field advantages in the league.  When they were a great team though Ray Jay was a place that most teams feared having to go to and had a crazy atmosphere.

 

Same deal in college football.   The Gators when Tebow was there had a stadium with 95+ thousand people going nuts every week.  Right now it sounds like a retirement home.  When the Bulls were ranked and playing teams like Kansas, West Virginia, and Cincy when they were ranked, Ray Jay would get extremely loud and with everyone banging on the seats the whole freaking stadium would feel like it was shaking.   Last year the only noise you could hear in the entire stadium was the band.  Another good example is USC.  The collesieum was practically empty at the start of alot of their games last year.  When they are good though it's one of the craziest places in college football.

 

If a team wins the fans will show up and they will be loud.  When they suck they will stop showing up and be quiet.  It's really not that complicated.