Mike White is starting against Houston

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The problems on offense are way bigger than the QB. We will not be able to tell if White or Bench will be the answer this season because they don't have a supporting cast worth a crap. Nobody is making a play for these QB's and it's unfair to judge them based on stats.

 

Bench's INT yesterday was him trying to make a play because nobody else was. You don't pull a QB on a struggling team based on a single INT. If that was the case Favre would have never made it past his first season in Green Bay.

Playing QB is about making plays and taking risks and when your down by 3 touchdowns you need to take more risks. Pointless to punish any QB that throws a INT here or there, especially when they are so green.

the primary problem on offense is the QB.

 

not sure he is being pulled for one INT.

 

he had plenty of reps to make his case. the guy has a 40% completion percentage and more picks then TDs. time to see what White can do.

 

You do know that a QB can only do so much with what he is given right?

A bad OL makes him force throws, bad passes do to no time and throw away passes hurting completion %.

Bad WR's drop passes which hurt completion %. Don't run good routes and make balls look poorly thrown. Don't get separation which causes a throw into traffic or a throw away, both of which risk a turnover or hurt completion %.

A QB is only as good as his OL or WR's allow him to be and currently they are allowing our QB's to suck balls.

 

I do know that an offense can only do so much with the QB running it.

 

Bench ran the option in high school. his coach was quoted as saying they might go 2 games without throwing a pass. He then transfered his senior year and ran a more pass heavy offense where he threw for a whopping 11 TDs and 1000 yards. He wasn't very accurate in high school either.

 

maybe you should consider the fact that o-lines can't hold blocks for 10 seconds, receivers don't drop 25% of the passes thrown to them, and an offense is only as good as the QB running it.

 

I can't believe you would think that ALL of our receivers are so bad that this is why Bench has a completion percentage at 40%

 

Have you not paid attention to the amount of drops we have?

Our OL can even hold a block for 3-4 seconds which is pretty standard goal to reach.

With your theory Tom Brady must really suck and need to be benched because he just isn't getting it done at QB.

An offense with inexperienced or just bad WR's coupled with an OL that is a sieve will ALWAYS give you terrible QB results no matter who is the QB!

Edited October 27, 2013 by deters-

[Bulls On Parade]

I have a feeling white is going to look like a heisman qb next to Eveld and bench.

We need to know if we have a legit qb or a Floyd.

[SANJAY]

Anyone expecting White to come in and be the savior is deluding themselves. However, if he comes in and protects the ball and can show enough passing that the defenses can't just ignore the pass like they've been doing then he will be an improvement.

[Bull94]

 

 

 

 

The problems on offense are way bigger than the QB. We will not be able to tell if White or Bench will be the answer this season because they don't have a supporting cast worth a crap. Nobody is making a play for these QB's and it's unfair to judge them based on stats.

 

Bench's INT yesterday was him trying to make a play because nobody else was. You don't pull a QB on a struggling team based on a single INT. If that was the case Favre would have never made it past his first season in Green Bay.

Playing QB is about making plays and taking risks and when your down by 3 touchdowns you need to take more risks. Pointless to punish any QB that throws a INT here or there, especially when they are so green.

the primary problem on offense is the QB.

 

not sure he is being pulled for one INT.

 

he had plenty of reps to make his case. the guy has a 40% completion percentage and more picks then TDs. time to see what White can do.

 

You do know that a QB can only do so much with what he is given right?

A bad OL makes him force throws, bad passes do to no time and throw away passes hurting completion %.

Bad WR's drop passes which hurt completion %. Don't run good routes and make balls look poorly thrown. Don't get separation which causes a throw into traffic or a throw away, both of which risk a turnover or hurt completion %.

A QB is only as good as his OL or WR's allow him to be and currently they are allowing our QB's to suck balls.

 

I do know that an offense can only do so much with the QB running it.

 

Bench ran the option in high school. his coach was quoted as saying they might go 2 games without throwing a pass. He then transfered his senior year and ran a more pass heavy offense where he threw for a whopping 11 TDs and 1000 yards. He wasn't very accurate in high school either.

 

maybe you should consider the fact that o-lines can't hold blocks for 10 seconds, receivers don't drop 25% of the passes thrown to them, and an offense is only as good as the QB running it.

 

I can't believe you would think that ALL of our receivers are so bad that this is why Bench has a completion percentage at 40%

 

Have you not paid attention to the amount of drops we have?

Our OL can even hold a block for 3-4 seconds which is pretty standard goal to reach.

With your theory Tom Brady must really suck and need to be benched because he just isn't getting it done at QB.

An offense with inexperienced or just bad WR's coupled with an OL that is a sieve will ALWAYS give you terrible QB results no matter who is the QB!

 

3 seconds top.

 

they aren't dropping 20% of the passes thrown to them.

 

our receivers aren't inexperienced. many are juniors with plenty of experience. they are talented too.

 

Tom Brady's team is 5-2 and last i checked they are still scoring offensive TDs. he is averaging 250 yards passing per game and has more TDs than picks.

 

our o-line isn't a sieve. our QBs don't know how to handle pressure.

[Bull94]

Anyone expecting White to come in and be the savior is deluding themselves. However, if he comes in and protects the ball and can show enough passing that the defenses can't just ignore the pass like they've been doing then he will be an improvement.

if he can just get us some first downs. hell just complete some passes. we have the lowest completion percentage in the country. I won't mind freshman mistakes. just show us something to give us hope for the future.

[SANJAY]

Anyone expecting White to come in and be the savior is deluding themselves. However, if he comes in and protects the ball and can show enough passing that the defenses can't just ignore the pass like they've been doing then he will be an improvement.

if he can just get us some first downs. hell just complete some passes. we have the lowest completion percentage in the country. I won't mind freshman mistakes. just show us something to give us hope for the future.

Agreed. It was so bad that I spend offensive possessions determine if we can get to the 35 yard line to try a field goal.

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The problems on offense are way bigger than the QB. We will not be able to tell if White or Bench will be the answer this season because they don't have a supporting cast worth a crap. Nobody is making a play for these QB's and it's unfair to judge them based on stats.

 

Bench's INT yesterday was him trying to make a play because nobody else was. You don't pull a QB on a struggling team based on a single INT. If that was the case Favre would have never made it past his first season in Green Bay.

Playing QB is about making plays and taking risks and when your down by 3 touchdowns you need to take more risks. Pointless to punish any QB that throws a INT here or there, especially when they are so green.

the primary problem on offense is the QB.

 

not sure he is being pulled for one INT.

 

he had plenty of reps to make his case. the guy has a 40% completion percentage and more picks then TDs. time to see what White can do.

 

You do know that a QB can only do so much with what he is given right?

A bad OL makes him force throws, bad passes do to no time and throw away passes hurting completion %.

Bad WR's drop passes which hurt completion %. Don't run good routes and make balls look poorly thrown. Don't get separation which causes a throw into traffic or a throw away, both of which risk a turnover or hurt completion %.

A QB is only as good as his OL or WR's allow him to be and currently they are allowing our QB's to suck balls.

 

I do know that an offense can only do so much with the QB running it.

 

Bench ran the option in high school. his coach was quoted as saying they might go 2 games without throwing a pass. He then transfered his senior year and ran a more pass heavy offense where he threw for a whopping 11 TDs and 1000 yards. He wasn't very accurate in high school either.

 

maybe you should consider the fact that o-lines can't hold blocks for 10 seconds, receivers don't drop 25% of the passes thrown to them, and an offense is only as good as the QB running it.

 

I can't believe you would think that ALL of our receivers are so bad that this is why Bench has a completion percentage at 40%

 

Have you not paid attention to the amount of drops we have?

Our OL can even hold a block for 3-4 seconds which is pretty standard goal to reach.

With your theory Tom Brady must really suck and need to be benched because he just isn't getting it done at QB.

An offense with inexperienced or just bad WR's coupled with an OL that is a sieve will ALWAYS give you terrible QB results no matter who is the QB!

 

3 seconds top.

 

they aren't dropping 20% of the passes thrown to them.

 

our receivers aren't inexperienced. many are juniors with plenty of experience. they are talented too.

 

Tom Brady's team is 5-2 and last i checked they are still scoring offensive TDs. he is averaging 250 yards passing per game and has more TDs than picks.

 

our o-line isn't a sieve. our QBs don't know how to handle pressure.

 

You lost all credibility when you wrote that. Our offensive line is #19 in sacks allowed and is giving up nearly 3 sacks per game. They are a sieve.

I'd wager they are dropping 20% of the passes thrown to them and I'd wager that 30% of our passes are throw aways with the other 50% just being incompletions.

[Bull94]

 

 

 

 

 

 

The problems on offense are way bigger than the QB. We will not be able to tell if White or Bench will be the answer this season because they don't have a supporting cast worth a crap. Nobody is making a play for these QB's and it's unfair to judge them based on stats.

 

Bench's INT yesterday was him trying to make a play because nobody else was. You don't pull a QB on a struggling team based on a single INT. If that was the case Favre would have never made it past his first season in Green Bay.

Playing QB is about making plays and taking risks and when your down by 3 touchdowns you need to take more risks. Pointless to punish any QB that throws a INT here or there, especially when they are so green.

the primary problem on offense is the QB.

 

not sure he is being pulled for one INT.

 

he had plenty of reps to make his case. the guy has a 40% completion percentage and more picks then TDs. time to see what White can do.

 

You do know that a QB can only do so much with what he is given right?

A bad OL makes him force throws, bad passes do to no time and throw away passes hurting completion %.

Bad WR's drop passes which hurt completion %. Don't run good routes and make balls look poorly thrown. Don't get separation which causes a throw into traffic or a throw away, both of which risk a turnover or hurt completion %.

A QB is only as good as his OL or WR's allow him to be and currently they are allowing our QB's to suck balls.

 

I do know that an offense can only do so much with the QB running it.

 

Bench ran the option in high school. his coach was quoted as saying they might go 2 games without throwing a pass. He then transfered his senior year and ran a more pass heavy offense where he threw for a whopping 11 TDs and 1000 yards. He wasn't very accurate in high school either.

 

maybe you should consider the fact that o-lines can't hold blocks for 10 seconds, receivers don't drop 25% of the passes thrown to them, and an offense is only as good as the QB running it.

 

I can't believe you would think that ALL of our receivers are so bad that this is why Bench has a completion percentage at 40%

 

Have you not paid attention to the amount of drops we have?

Our OL can even hold a block for 3-4 seconds which is pretty standard goal to reach.

With your theory Tom Brady must really suck and need to be benched because he just isn't getting it done at QB.

An offense with inexperienced or just bad WR's coupled with an OL that is a sieve will ALWAYS give you terrible QB results no matter who is the QB!

 

3 seconds top.

 

they aren't dropping 20% of the passes thrown to them.

 

our receivers aren't inexperienced. many are juniors with plenty of experience. they are talented too.

 

Tom Brady's team is 5-2 and last i checked they are still scoring offensive TDs. he is averaging 250 yards passing per game and has more TDs than picks.

 

our o-line isn't a sieve. our QBs don't know how to handle pressure.

 

You lost all credibility when you wrote that. Our offensive line is #19 in sacks allowed and is giving up nearly 3 sacks per game. They are a sieve.

I'd wager they are dropping 20% of the passes thrown to them and I'd wager that 30% of our passes are throw aways with the other 50% just being incompletions.

 

you do realize sacks aren't just on the linemen right?

 

when you have a QB who holds onto the ball to long then it's on him. when you have a QB wth no pocket prescence and very poor footwork it's on him.

 

we sacked bridgewater 3 times yesterday. we were sacked 4 times. bridgewater seemed to do just fine. our QBs not so much.

 

you go ahead and wager that we drop 20% of passes. you'd be completely wrong. and saying that throwaways are for some resason not on the QB is ridiculous.

[GaUSFBull]

Bull94 is right. Because Eveld takes to long to get rid of the ball, the offensive line has had to work harder, and it's no wonder they've buckled under almost constant pressure. QB play shares some blame for sure.

[deters-]

The problems on offense are way bigger than the QB. We will not be able to tell if White or Bench will be the answer this season because they don't have a supporting cast worth a crap. Nobody is making a play for these QB's and it's unfair to judge them based on stats.

Bench's INT yesterday was him trying to make a play because nobody else was. You don't pull a QB on a struggling team based on a single INT. If that was the case Favre would have never made it past his first season in Green Bay.

Playing QB is about making plays and taking risks and when your down by 3 touchdowns you need to take more risks. Pointless to punish any QB that throws a INT here or there, especially when they are so green.

the primary problem on offense is the QB.

not sure he is being pulled for one INT.

he had plenty of reps to make his case. the guy has a 40% completion percentage and more picks then TDs. time to see what White can do.

You do know that a QB can only do so much with what he is given right?

A bad OL makes him force throws, bad passes do to no time and throw away passes hurting completion %.

Bad WR's drop passes which hurt completion %. Don't run good routes and make balls look poorly thrown. Don't get separation which causes a throw into traffic or a throw away, both of which risk a turnover or hurt completion %.

A QB is only as good as his OL or WR's allow him to be and currently they are allowing our QB's to suck balls.

I do know that an offense can only do so much with the QB running it.

Bench ran the option in high school. his coach was quoted as saying they might go 2 games without throwing a pass. He then transfered his senior year and ran a more pass heavy offense where he threw for a whopping 11 TDs and 1000 yards. He wasn't very accurate in high school either.

maybe you should consider the fact that o-lines can't hold blocks for 10 seconds, receivers don't drop 25% of the passes thrown to them, and an offense is only as good as the QB running it.

I can't believe you would think that ALL of our receivers are so bad that this is why Bench has a completion percentage at 40%

Have you not paid attention to the amount of drops we have?

Our OL can even hold a block for 3-4 seconds which is pretty standard goal to reach.

With your theory Tom Brady must really suck and need to be benched because he just isn't getting it done at QB.

An offense with inexperienced or just bad WR's coupled with an OL that is a sieve will ALWAYS give you terrible QB results no matter who is the QB!

3 seconds top.

they aren't dropping 20% of the passes thrown to them.

our receivers aren't inexperienced. many are juniors with plenty of experience. they are talented too.

Tom Brady's team is 5-2 and last i checked they are still scoring offensive TDs. he is averaging 250 yards passing per game and has more TDs than picks.

our o-line isn't a sieve. our QBs don't know how to handle pressure.

You lost all credibility when you wrote that. Our offensive line is #19 in sacks allowed and is giving up nearly 3 sacks per game. They are a sieve.

I'd wager they are dropping 20% of the passes thrown to them and I'd wager that 30% of our passes are throw aways with the other 50% just being incompletions.

you do realize sacks aren't just on the linemen right?

when you have a QB who holds onto the ball to long then it's on him. when you have a QB wth no pocket prescence and very poor footwork it's on him.

we sacked bridgewater 3 times yesterday. we were sacked 4 times. bridgewater seemed to do just fine. our QBs not so much.

you go ahead and wager that we drop 20% of passes. you'd be completely wrong. and saying that throwaways are for some resason not on the QB is ridiculous.

bridgewater also had wrs catching passes ours couldn't even imagine. And using how bridgewater did vs us when louisville has offensive talent that is on a whole nother level than what is at usf makes you look even less credible.

I also never said throw aways aren't on the qb...

You think 20% drop rate isn't feasible? Go back and watch our games and prove me wrong. Every game we have roughly a combined 10-12 or more drops and throw aways.

Keep thinking qb is the major reason for us failing, I'll be here awaiting your response once White fails miserably on thursday and see if your still singing the same tune.

Edited October 27, 2013 by deters-