Good article by Greg on USF Football schedule

[Brad]

Kind of reminds me of the hopefulness for strategic thought we experienced with Skip and his timeouts.

[bull-71]

Bull 71 "IMO …Given the size of our sports program, complexity, delegation of duties I doubt that Doug Woolard is in direct contact with any schools until preliminary details are completed.

My suggestion is to take a REALY CLOSE IN DEPTH LOOK at the qualifications of the individuals doing this preliminary work…

MY suggestion ….this is probably a weak point in the USF AD organization that needs a replacement and or additional staffing..

Go Bulls" 

 

I think you hit the nail on the head, which ultimately falls back on Doug. He is the AD(CE0) of the Athletic Dept.  He should take some of that hefty pay and bonus money and pay adequate people to do a real job, Not a bunch of interns running around acting like the know everything there is to know about an athletic program.  Doug is responsible for his employees.

 Noticed this alot last season at the home FB games, people with All access passes coming into our section sitting wherever they find an empty seat only to arque with the ticket holders(while being drunk) (Heard one tell someone that they could sit wherever they wanted when they wanted) as if the (A A Pass) trumps the ticket holder. 

 Not what our AD needs or should stand for. 

 

IMO the real test of Doug’s capacity as a CEO of our Ad will be shortly…

 

There is an old joke about 3 letters that I will not repeat.  

 

We can blame the facilities  for the part recruiting problems..Yes poor facilities are negative.

This is the first Letter and  has been used. We have new Facilities …

 

The  firing of JL and Skippy and  the hiring  of Willie T is the second letter.

 

If Doug has the capacity to differentiate BS from talent or not will ultimately determine his FATE AS AD.

 

He has been given all the tools to do the job…there ARE NO MORE EXCUSES.  

 

A great CEO has the ability to govern and evaluate talent. He must build the organizational structure thru evaluations and decisions.   He HAS to have the ABILITY to separate the actual ability from BS.   This is real easy for a talented individual with in depth knowledge.   People without this ability will ultimately flounder.  

 

I believe Willie T is an Star..I hope Doug has faith in him and gives him the power to implement a great program.  This should take place in less than three years . If he is incapable of turning Willie T loose then our program is doomed and Doug will probably get the well deserved boot.

 

Go Bulls

[JTrue]

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[Hem]

@USFinsiderBillM: @HemUnit @SuavePrime01 No shortage of good opportunities out there for us (never has been); we’ll announce future games at right time

[Quo Vadis]

UCF has really grabbed the spotlight by signing those home and homes with Penn State and South Carolina.  Our athletic administration has clearly fallen down on the job. We will not build a big-time fan base playing the likes of McNeese State, Florida A/M, and Ball State.

 

Going forward, we will be playing in a denuded "Big East" with lesser names like Memphis, Temple, and ECU instead of schools like West Virginia, Pitt, and Rutgers. That means we must augment this unattractive conference schedule with better OOC competition. Of course I'm not saying anything that isn't blitheringly obvious so it makes you wonder why our athletic department hasn't been more productive on the scheduling front.

Edited March 30, 2013 by BatonRougeBull87

[Bull94]

 

 

It's laughable that teams are scared to play us, so I don't know what it could be. Only thing it comes down to is incompetence of our AD and Judy for allowing it.

I think when some use "scared" they are overstating a fact which should not be ignored.  The big programs would prefer to schedule teams which have virtually no chance in Hades of beating them.  Just look at Florida for example.  They rarely play anyone out of conference which even 1 out of 10 years would have a shot. So when Clemson and Ga. Tech come calling, I am not sure why you would not make something happen.

 

UF plays FSU every year. they play at miami this year.that's in addition to lsu, georgia, south carolina, arkansas etc.

 

our conference mates will for the most part be considered cupcakes. our entire schedule is loaded with them.

 

they play a very tough conference schedule. they have no need to make it any tougher. it's usually a top 5 schedule every year even with the cupcakes. imagine if we played alabama, lsu, auburn, georgia, south carolina as an OOC every year.

 

BTW there are plenty of top programs that play tough OOC opponents. using UF as an example is misleading at best.

 You missed my point. FSU does not count because it is state mandated. They do not play UM on a regular basis. The SEC teams they have no say and have to play them. So the teams they actually have a choice are usually 1AA or lesser 1A programs (UM on the rare occasion is the exception). My statement cannot be denied and overlooks what is important.... When one of the bigger schools reaches out to you, you have to make it happen.

We have never been seen as equals to any of the "big 5" so while big program from the SEC may play a big program from the Pac 10, each may be reluctant to schedule a "lesser program" on an equal home and home basis. That said, it is the AD's job to find the programs which will do this and they may have to take the one and done road games in the future. Pointing out the reality of tougher scheduling does not mean it is and excuse, just a reality. If the AD chose not to find a way to work with Clemson and Ga. Tech, this has to be a negative mark for him.

it's not mandated according to wiki

 

quote

As the impasse dragged on, a bill was proposed in the Florida Legislature in 1955 which would have mandated that the two schools compete against each other in football and other sports. The bill was voted down. Shortly thereafter, however, Florida Governor LeRoy Collins personally requested president J. Wayne Reitz of the University of Florida to schedule a yearly football series between the two state universities, and the two schools' athletic directors eventually negotiated a contract that started the football series in 1958, the first available opening on the Gators' schedule

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_%E2%80%93_Florida_State_football_rivalry

 

comparing Uf's OOC schedule to USFs is ridiculous. UF plays a top 5 schedule every year. the goal is to play a togh schedule period. not a tough OOC schedule. sure there are plenty of teams that must play tough OOC games in order to strengthen their schedule (us being one of them) while there are some schools that can play sisters of the poor 4 times and still have a top 5 schedule strength (UF).

 

if we continue to use the same scheduling philosophy that we have in the recent past then our strength of schedule will plummet. we need to schedule 4 tough OOC opponents in order to increase our overall strength of schedule. where it might have been somewhere in the 50's or 60's with west virginia, louisville, pitt, etc it will now be in the 90's with smu, tulane, etc. this stinks froma competitive view as well as a fan interest view. 

 

this is on woolard to make it happen. it's why he gets paid over $500k per year. excuses are for losers. if he can't make it happen then we need to bring in someone like UCFs AD who can.

 

like someone else has said we can't control our conference schedule but we can control our OOC schedule. stop putting crap opponents on it. we have plenty from our conference schedule to deal with.

Edited March 30, 2013 by Bull94

[charsibb]

 

 

It's laughable that teams are scared to play us, so I don't know what it could be. Only thing it comes down to is incompetence of our AD and Judy for allowing it.

I think when some use "scared" they are overstating a fact which should not be ignored.  The big programs would prefer to schedule teams which have virtually no chance in Hades of beating them.  Just look at Florida for example.  They rarely play anyone out of conference which even 1 out of 10 years would have a shot. So when Clemson and Ga. Tech come calling, I am not sure why you would not make something happen. 

UF plays FSU every year. they play at miami this year.that's in addition to lsu, georgia, south carolina, arkansas etc. our conference mates will for the most part be considered cupcakes. our entire schedule is loaded with them. they play a very tough conference schedule. they have no need to make it any tougher. it's usually a top 5 schedule every year even with the cupcakes. imagine if we played alabama, lsu, auburn, georgia, south carolina as an OOC every year. BTW there are plenty of top programs that play tough OOC opponents. using UF as an example is misleading at best.

 You missed my point. FSU does not count because it is state mandated. They do not play UM on a regular basis. The SEC teams they have no say and have to play them. So the teams they actually have a choice are usually 1AA or lesser 1A programs (UM on the rare occasion is the exception). My statement cannot be denied and overlooks what is important.... When one of the bigger schools reaches out to you, you have to make it happen.We have never been seen as equals to any of the "big 5" so while big program from the SEC may play a big program from the Pac 10, each may be reluctant to schedule a "lesser program" on an equal home and home basis. That said, it is the AD's job to find the programs which will do this and they may have to take the one and done road games in the future. Pointing out the reality of tougher scheduling does not mean it is and excuse, just a reality. If the AD chose not to find a way to work with Clemson and Ga. Tech, this has to be a negative mark for him.

it's not mandated according to wiki quoteAs the impasse dragged on, a bill was proposed in the Florida Legislature in 1955 which would have mandated that the two schools compete against each other in football and other sports. The bill was voted down. Shortly thereafter, however, Florida Governor LeRoy Collins personally requested president J. Wayne Reitz of the University of Florida to schedule a yearly football series between the two state universities, and the two schools' athletic directors eventually negotiated a contract that started the football series in 1958, the first available opening on the Gators' schedule http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_–_Florida_State_football_rivalry comparing Uf's OOC schedule to USFs is ridiculous. UF plays a top 5 schedule every year. the goal is to play a togh schedule period. not a tough OOC schedule. sure there are plenty of teams that must play tough OOC games in order to strengthen their schedule (us being one of them) while there are some schools that can play sisters of the poor 4 times and still have a top 5 schedule strength (UF). if we continue to use the same scheduling philosophy that we have in the recent past then our strength of schedule will plummet. we need to schedule 4 tough OOC opponents in order to increase our overall strength of schedule. where it might have been somewhere in the 50's or 60's with west virginia, louisville, pitt, etc it will now be in the 90's with smu, tulane, etc. this stinks froma competitive view as well as a fan interest view.  this is on woolard to make it happen. it's why he gets paid over $500k per year. excuses are for losers. if he can't make it happen then we need to bring in someone like UCFs AD who can. like someone else has said we can't control our conference schedule but we can control our OOC schedule. stop putting crap opponents on it. we have plenty from our conference schedule to deal with.

No, we CANNOT control our OOC schedule.

No matter how many times you ask a girl out, she controls her response.

If the big boys don't want to play us, they won't.

And until you have some evidence we ain't asking, kwitcher whining.

[Bull94]

 

 

 

 

It's laughable that teams are scared to play us, so I don't know what it could be. Only thing it comes down to is incompetence of our AD and Judy for allowing it.

I think when some use "scared" they are overstating a fact which should not be ignored.  The big programs would prefer to schedule teams which have virtually no chance in Hades of beating them.  Just look at Florida for example.  They rarely play anyone out of conference which even 1 out of 10 years would have a shot. So when Clemson and Ga. Tech come calling, I am not sure why you would not make something happen. 

UF plays FSU every year. they play at miami this year.that's in addition to lsu, georgia, south carolina, arkansas etc. our conference mates will for the most part be considered cupcakes. our entire schedule is loaded with them. they play a very tough conference schedule. they have no need to make it any tougher. it's usually a top 5 schedule every year even with the cupcakes. imagine if we played alabama, lsu, auburn, georgia, south carolina as an OOC every year. BTW there are plenty of top programs that play tough OOC opponents. using UF as an example is misleading at best.

 You missed my point. FSU does not count because it is state mandated. They do not play UM on a regular basis. The SEC teams they have no say and have to play them. So the teams they actually have a choice are usually 1AA or lesser 1A programs (UM on the rare occasion is the exception). My statement cannot be denied and overlooks what is important.... When one of the bigger schools reaches out to you, you have to make it happen.We have never been seen as equals to any of the "big 5" so while big program from the SEC may play a big program from the Pac 10, each may be reluctant to schedule a "lesser program" on an equal home and home basis. That said, it is the AD's job to find the programs which will do this and they may have to take the one and done road games in the future. Pointing out the reality of tougher scheduling does not mean it is and excuse, just a reality. If the AD chose not to find a way to work with Clemson and Ga. Tech, this has to be a negative mark for him.

it's not mandated according to wiki quoteAs the impasse dragged on, a bill was proposed in the Florida Legislature in 1955 which would have mandated that the two schools compete against each other in football and other sports. The bill was voted down. Shortly thereafter, however, Florida Governor LeRoy Collins personally requested president J. Wayne Reitz of the University of Florida to schedule a yearly football series between the two state universities, and the two schools' athletic directors eventually negotiated a contract that started the football series in 1958, the first available opening on the Gators' schedule http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_–_Florida_State_football_rivalry comparing Uf's OOC schedule to USFs is ridiculous. UF plays a top 5 schedule every year. the goal is to play a togh schedule period. not a tough OOC schedule. sure there are plenty of teams that must play tough OOC games in order to strengthen their schedule (us being one of them) while there are some schools that can play sisters of the poor 4 times and still have a top 5 schedule strength (UF). if we continue to use the same scheduling philosophy that we have in the recent past then our strength of schedule will plummet. we need to schedule 4 tough OOC opponents in order to increase our overall strength of schedule. where it might have been somewhere in the 50's or 60's with west virginia, louisville, pitt, etc it will now be in the 90's with smu, tulane, etc. this stinks froma competitive view as well as a fan interest view.  this is on woolard to make it happen. it's why he gets paid over $500k per year. excuses are for losers. if he can't make it happen then we need to bring in someone like UCFs AD who can. like someone else has said we can't control our conference schedule but we can control our OOC schedule. stop putting crap opponents on it. we have plenty from our conference schedule to deal with.

No, we CANNOT control our OOC schedule.

No matter how many times you ask a girl out, she controls her response.

If the big boys don't want to play us, they won't.

And until you have some evidence we ain't asking, kwitcher whining.

yes you can control who you ask out. until you have evidence that they are declining quit your bitchin.

[Quo Vadis]

 

 

 

 

It's laughable that teams are scared to play us, so I don't know what it could be. Only thing it comes down to is incompetence of our AD and Judy for allowing it.

I think when some use "scared" they are overstating a fact which should not be ignored.  The big programs would prefer to schedule teams which have virtually no chance in Hades of beating them.  Just look at Florida for example.  They rarely play anyone out of conference which even 1 out of 10 years would have a shot. So when Clemson and Ga. Tech come calling, I am not sure why you would not make something happen. 

UF plays FSU every year. they play at miami this year.that's in addition to lsu, georgia, south carolina, arkansas etc. our conference mates will for the most part be considered cupcakes. our entire schedule is loaded with them. they play a very tough conference schedule. they have no need to make it any tougher. it's usually a top 5 schedule every year even with the cupcakes. imagine if we played alabama, lsu, auburn, georgia, south carolina as an OOC every year. BTW there are plenty of top programs that play tough OOC opponents. using UF as an example is misleading at best.

 You missed my point. FSU does not count because it is state mandated. They do not play UM on a regular basis. The SEC teams they have no say and have to play them. So the teams they actually have a choice are usually 1AA or lesser 1A programs (UM on the rare occasion is the exception). My statement cannot be denied and overlooks what is important.... When one of the bigger schools reaches out to you, you have to make it happen.We have never been seen as equals to any of the "big 5" so while big program from the SEC may play a big program from the Pac 10, each may be reluctant to schedule a "lesser program" on an equal home and home basis. That said, it is the AD's job to find the programs which will do this and they may have to take the one and done road games in the future. Pointing out the reality of tougher scheduling does not mean it is and excuse, just a reality. If the AD chose not to find a way to work with Clemson and Ga. Tech, this has to be a negative mark for him.

it's not mandated according to wiki quoteAs the impasse dragged on, a bill was proposed in the Florida Legislature in 1955 which would have mandated that the two schools compete against each other in football and other sports. The bill was voted down. Shortly thereafter, however, Florida Governor LeRoy Collins personally requested president J. Wayne Reitz of the University of Florida to schedule a yearly football series between the two state universities, and the two schools' athletic directors eventually negotiated a contract that started the football series in 1958, the first available opening on the Gators' schedule http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_–_Florida_State_football_rivalry comparing Uf's OOC schedule to USFs is ridiculous. UF plays a top 5 schedule every year. the goal is to play a togh schedule period. not a tough OOC schedule. sure there are plenty of teams that must play tough OOC games in order to strengthen their schedule (us being one of them) while there are some schools that can play sisters of the poor 4 times and still have a top 5 schedule strength (UF). if we continue to use the same scheduling philosophy that we have in the recent past then our strength of schedule will plummet. we need to schedule 4 tough OOC opponents in order to increase our overall strength of schedule. where it might have been somewhere in the 50's or 60's with west virginia, louisville, pitt, etc it will now be in the 90's with smu, tulane, etc. this stinks froma competitive view as well as a fan interest view.  this is on woolard to make it happen. it's why he gets paid over $500k per year. excuses are for losers. if he can't make it happen then we need to bring in someone like UCFs AD who can. like someone else has said we can't control our conference schedule but we can control our OOC schedule. stop putting crap opponents on it. we have plenty from our conference schedule to deal with.

No, we CANNOT control our OOC schedule.

No matter how many times you ask a girl out, she controls her response.

If the big boys don't want to play us, they won't.

And until you have some evidence we ain't asking, kwitcher whining.

Seriously, what's the evidence that we are asking big-time schools to schedule us, and they  are turning us down?

Edited March 30, 2013 by BatonRougeBull87

[BullFan98]

All we gotta do is let ucf slay the big guys and then we just slay them at the end of each season. Problem solved.

We need to get a lot of fans to this game; they are already pumping up their fan base for this game....

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/blogs/knights-notepad/os-ucf-athletic-director-todd-stansbury-email-to-fans,0,4892838.post