CBS sports reporting ACC 14th team will be chosen this week

[Triple B]

All of this stuff used to concern me but Skippy's destruction of the program makes it to where none of this matters. We were in a downward spiral when he was hired in 2010, we just did not know it yet.

Disagree about the downward spiral back when Skip was hired, Leavitt might not have been the best coach but he made us what we were.

Agree about how Skippy has destroyed this program... even if he rights the ship in two years or so and gets us back to where we were under Leavitt, he should still be fired.

We didn't go into a downward "spiral" when Skip was hired. In fact we had 3 of our most notable ooc wins with him. The "spiral" would have started with the 5th game of his 2nd year here .... and for God's sake, please stop with the "destroyed the program" melodramatics. It makes those that spew that sound ridiculous ...

[bullcocky101]

All of this stuff used to concern me but Skippy's destruction of the program makes it to where none of this matters. We were in a downward spiral when he was hired in 2010, we just did not know it yet.

Disagree about the downward spiral back when Skip was hired, Leavitt might not have been the best coach but he made us what we were.

Agree about how Skippy has destroyed this program... even if he rights the ship in two years or so and gets us back to where we were under Leavitt, he should still be fired.

We didn't go into a downward "spiral" when Skip was hired. In fact we had 3 of our most notable ooc wins with him. The "spiral" would have started with the 5th game of his 2nd year here .... and for God's sake, please stop with the "destroyed the program" melodramatics. It makes those that spew that sound ridiculous ...

If on the field performance is a factor in re-alignment...he may have kept us from the big boy table and the money it brings. So he may have not "desroyed" the program, but "permanently injured" is still on the table.

[Triple B]

All of this stuff used to concern me but Skippy's destruction of the program makes it to where none of this matters. We were in a downward spiral when he was hired in 2010, we just did not know it yet.

Disagree about the downward spiral back when Skip was hired, Leavitt might not have been the best coach but he made us what we were.

Agree about how Skippy has destroyed this program... even if he rights the ship in two years or so and gets us back to where we were under Leavitt, he should still be fired.

We didn't go into a downward "spiral" when Skip was hired. In fact we had 3 of our most notable ooc wins with him. The "spiral" would have started with the 5th game of his 2nd year here .... and for God's sake, please stop with the "destroyed the program" melodramatics. It makes those that spew that sound ridiculous ...

If on the field performance is a factor in re-alignment...he may have kept us from the big boy table and the money it brings. So he may have not "desroyed" the program, but "permanently injured" is still on the table.

It's not ... and the only way a coach can destroy a program is to do something that gets the program the death penalty or horribly severe sanctions.

[Bull Martin]

All of this stuff used to concern me but Skippy's destruction of the program makes it to where none of this matters. We were in a downward spiral when he was hired in 2010, we just did not know it yet.

Disagree about the downward spiral back when Skip was hired, Leavitt might not have been the best coach but he made us what we were.

Agree about how Skippy has destroyed this program... even if he rights the ship in two years or so and gets us back to where we were under Leavitt, he should still be fired.

We didn't go into a downward "spiral" when Skip was hired. In fact we had 3 of our most notable ooc wins with him. The "spiral" would have started with the 5th game of his 2nd year here .... and for God's sake, please stop with the "destroyed the program" melodramatics. It makes those that spew that sound ridiculous ...

If on the field performance is a factor in re-alignment...he may have kept us from the big boy table and the money it brings. So he may have not "desroyed" the program, but "permanently injured" is still on the table.

It's not ...

If people type it enough, it will become true, right? .

[TallyBull]

It's not ... and the only way a coach can destroy a program is to do something that gets the program the death penalty or horribly severe sanctions.

The last realignment wasn't based upon on the field performance either. USF didn't get into the Big East because it had performed well on the field - it got into the Big East because it was the best Florida expansion candidate at the time.

[Triple B]

All of this stuff used to concern me but Skippy's destruction of the program makes it to where none of this matters. We were in a downward spiral when he was hired in 2010, we just did not know it yet.

Disagree about the downward spiral back when Skip was hired, Leavitt might not have been the best coach but he made us what we were.

Agree about how Skippy has destroyed this program... even if he rights the ship in two years or so and gets us back to where we were under Leavitt, he should still be fired.

We didn't go into a downward "spiral" when Skip was hired. In fact we had 3 of our most notable ooc wins with him. The "spiral" would have started with the 5th game of his 2nd year here .... and for God's sake, please stop with the "destroyed the program" melodramatics. It makes those that spew that sound ridiculous ...

If on the field performance is a factor in re-alignment...he may have kept us from the big boy table and the money it brings. So he may have not "desroyed" the program, but "permanently injured" is still on the table.

It's not ...

If people type it enough, it will become true, right? .

Skip's got enough on the negative side of his ledger that he doesn't need any trumped up charges ...

[Dhambuc]

3 years and it gets worse each game. Go back to the first season and look at Skips coaching mistake in the UConn game, We scored late in the game to go up by less than 3, leaving UConn time on the clock less than 2 minutes, We went for FG instead of TD. UConn gets the ball marches down the field and kicks a 50 plus yard fg as time expires to go to the Fiesta Bowl and to end our regualar season.( we did beat Clemson in our bowl game, but who doesnt beat them in bowl games, BTW we almost let them steal that game as well, scoring 2 tds in 2 minutes).

Skips mistakes and poor in game decsions and clock mangement have been going on since the first year, People seem to forget the first season, 2nd season is a blur but the present season is more prevaliant since its so fresh.

Skip is horrible and has no clue how to manage a fb game. He must go.

Edited November 26, 2012 by Dhambuc

[Cow Pie]

Its going to be either UL or UConn taken during this round... there won't be a next round for the Big East...

I have heard on XM ESPN Radio, The Fan, and a few other channels that IF the ACC takes another football school from the Big East then the Big East basketball schools will move to vote to dissolve the Big East football conference, and will either move to raid other basketball conferences or merge with another major basketball conference.

"IF" this occurs then USF, Natti, and either UL or UConn in addition to UCF, Houston, and SMU will be likely picked up by CUSA or the remaining schools can try to create a new conference on their own. Either way we are screwed. Navy will remain an Indy, while Boise State and San Diego State will likely go back to the MWC.

I didn't know there was a Big East Football Conference.

I meant the football side of the conference... the basketball schools want to cut their loses and focus on round ball.

[Mission9]

All of this stuff used to concern me but Skippy's destruction of the program makes it to where none of this matters. We were in a downward spiral when he was hired in 2010, we just did not know it yet.

Disagree about the downward spiral back when Skip was hired, Leavitt might not have been the best coach but he made us what we were.

Agree about how Skippy has destroyed this program... even if he rights the ship in two years or so and gets us back to where we were under Leavitt, he should still be fired.

Not meant to be a slam on Leavitt. Was not a fanboy of his but respected that somehow USF was competitive. Only a slam on Skippy poo.

down spiral start with leavitt

we didnt win a thiong with him and he would get out recruited and out coached by rutgers

Tired of going over this ad nauseum but they were competitive and made a bowl every year once they made it to the Big East. We were a competitive middle of the road team. Now, we just suck.

Once again, not really fair to compare USF to what Southern Cal would consider success or failure. The last time USC had success without cheating, USF did not have football.

Shiano made Rutgers and I doubt anyone would say Leavitt is better than Schiano.

Now, to agree with you, if you simply say that you expected more so you wanted someone else, I cannot disagree. To say we were not at least competitive is really dismissing the facts.

When Leavitt plateaued, USF was an overachieving 25-50 rank team

Under Holtz, we have become an underachieving 50-75 rank team.

Neither of them could/ can take USF where we want to go, Leavitt because he was consistently outmaneuvered by the coaching of our conference competitors, Holtz because he truly doesn't have a clue what it means to even maneuver (much less out-maneuver) at the highest levels of D1 football.

Probably the most fair assessment of the situation. That's 2 touche's for you today sir!

[Mission9]

All of this stuff used to concern me but Skippy's destruction of the program makes it to where none of this matters. We were in a downward spiral when he was hired in 2010, we just did not know it yet.

Disagree about the downward spiral back when Skip was hired, Leavitt might not have been the best coach but he made us what we were.

Agree about how Skippy has destroyed this program... even if he rights the ship in two years or so and gets us back to where we were under Leavitt, he should still be fired.

We didn't go into a downward "spiral" when Skip was hired. In fact we had 3 of our most notable ooc wins with him. The "spiral" would have started with the 5th game of his 2nd year here .... and for God's sake, please stop with the "destroyed the program" melodramatics. It makes those that spew that sound ridiculous ...

I will refrain from doing so only because it is you who asked, Trip.