BullFan98 Posted October 30, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 258 Content Count: 7,780 Reputation: 328 Days Won: 7 Joined: 08/13/2010 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Usually players come to schools because of a coaching staff....so how would firing him save the recruits? Not endorsing his replacement choices.... but we're losing recruits at a pretty good clip due to our current staff and their record. Recruiting isn't something you just get right back into... the damage Skip has done will take years to dig out of.... it can't start till we get rid of this staff. Agreed. Look at the terrible recruiting job he did in his last two years at ECU, and this came from an ECU fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantation Pete Posted October 30, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 17 Content Count: 397 Reputation: 25 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/22/2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Your plan has no basis in reality... You can't tell Holtz to fire Cosh now and then fire him in another month. If an AD does anything before the season is over he would fire the HC and appoint an interim HC. That's not really a good idea, though, because all the remaining coaches as well as the interim HC know it's just a matter of time before the ax falls on them, too. As a result there is no burning incentive to win the remaining games or recruit because they will be more focused on brushing up their resumes and making phone calls looking for new jobs. And you won't want them recruiting anyway. The season is now lost, so you might as well wait to the end and cut everyone loose except for maybe the recruiting coordinator. Larry Coker will not give up his job as a HC to work as an OC. No coach worth their salt would do that. If he makes a job change it will be for another head coaching job at a real football school in a real football conference. He might settle as HC for USF, though. You are also delusional if you think all the coaches on your wish list would jump at the chance to run to USF if you waived a few dollars at them. They'll most likely be getting job offers from better and more established football programs at the end of the season. Using your logic, all I'd have to do to date a super model is flash some cash and she would come running to my fat ass overlooking my balding head. Believe it or not, guys like Derek Jeter or Mathew McConaughey have more money than I do and they are better looking and sexier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobull.Bulls Posted October 30, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 103 Content Count: 5,241 Reputation: 60 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/02/2007 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Bowden is living off his father's resume and name more than Skip! Coker lit the match that burned the Miami program to the ground, (he won the NC because Davis left that team LOADED with talent) Shannon was behind Coker with gasoline screaming "FIRE, FIRE, haha FIRE" Cristobal can't win in the SunBelt Conference, how's he going to do in the BigEast? The difference between Terry and Skip is that Terry actually won on the "Big Stage" at Auburn. But it would be awkward to go from the Holtz family to the Bowden family. http://en.wikipedia....ki/Terry_Bowden Terry was at Auburn, easy place to recruit talent and pay for better assistant coaches. USF is a little more difficult. Terry Bowden does not seem like a good choice for head coach. Mike Stoops or Brett Veneables seem like better options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000bull Posted October 30, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 83 Content Count: 7,048 Reputation: 641 Days Won: 11 Joined: 06/04/2009 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Bowden is living off his father's resume and name more than Skip! Coker lit the match that burned the Miami program to the ground, (he won the NC because Davis left that team LOADED with talent) Shannon was behind Coker with gasoline screaming "FIRE, FIRE, haha FIRE" Cristobal can't win in the SunBelt Conference, how's he going to do in the BigEast? The difference between Terry and Skip is that Terry actually won on the "Big Stage" at Auburn. But it would be awkward to go from the Holtz family to the Bowden family. http://en.wikipedia....ki/Terry_Bowden Terry was at Auburn, easy place to pay for talent fify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull94 Posted October 30, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 22 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted October 30, 2012 we need a good young coordinator from a top program or a good young, very successful(not moderately successful) coach from a lower tier program that can recruit the state. plenty out there. no retreads please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantation Pete Posted October 30, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 17 Content Count: 397 Reputation: 25 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/22/2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 (edited) we need a good young coordinator from a top program or a good young, very successful(not moderately successful) coach from a lower tier program that can recruit the state. plenty out there. no retreads please. Again, reality check...A good, young coordinator from a top program will have offers from "super models" so why would they jump into bed with the skinny, knock-kneed girl with braces and acne? And no, there are not plenty of them out there. Very few coordinators can make the transition to HC successfully. HC is a whole different job requiring completely different skill sets. Just because a coach is good with Xs and Os does not mean they will be a good HC. Edited October 30, 2012 by Plantation Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted October 30, 2012 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,733 Reputation: 10,959 Days Won: 425 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I know that Doug and Judy read TBP from time to time... Then they both must be fired with Holtz ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000bull Posted October 30, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 83 Content Count: 7,048 Reputation: 641 Days Won: 11 Joined: 06/04/2009 Share Posted October 30, 2012 we need a good young coordinator from a top program or a good young, very successful(not moderately successful) coach from a lower tier program that can recruit the state. plenty out there. no retreads please. Again, reality check...A good, young coordinator from a top program will have offers from "super models" so why would they jump into bed with the skinny, knock-kneed girl with braces and acne? And no, there are not plenty of them out there. Very few coordinators can make the transition to HC successfully. HC is a whole different job requiring completely different skill sets. Just because a coach is good with Xs and Os does not mean they will be a good HC. Reality check, we're screwed ....nobody will want to coach here, we should just see if there is any good high school coach available that would want to come here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull94 Posted October 30, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 22 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted October 30, 2012 we need a good young coordinator from a top program or a good young, very successful(not moderately successful) coach from a lower tier program that can recruit the state. plenty out there. no retreads please. Again, reality check...A good, young coordinator from a top program will have offers from "super models" so why would they jump into bed with the skinny, knock-kneed girl with braces and acne? And no, there are not plenty of them out there. Very few coordinators can make the transition to HC successfully. HC is a whole different job requiring completely different skill sets. Just because a coach is good with Xs and Os does not mean they will be a good HC. I get it. you don't like USF. there are plenty of coordinators at top 10 programs both offensive and defensive that would jump at this job. I get HC is different. didn't seem to hurt muschamp or mullen or strong or... from making the transition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhambuc Posted October 30, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 165 Content Count: 2,233 Reputation: 224 Days Won: 6 Joined: 08/18/2011 Share Posted October 30, 2012 (edited) Judy has done great things for USF from an Accademic standpoint and with regards to reserach ect... But as far as giving Woolard the contract and raise he got (that ties with Holtz's contract based on performance) needs to be addressed. Judy is the CEO of all USF. Woolard needs to be fired by Judy. He needs to fire Skip and company prior to being fired or Judy needs to pull the trigger. If Judy doesnt look at the athletic side than people should call for her head as well. Edited October 30, 2012 by Dhambuc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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