hm101 Posted October 10, 2012 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 173 Content Count: 7,004 Reputation: 2,260 Days Won: 12 Joined: 06/11/2010 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) Not to mention the SEC has a reputation of below-average academics They do? Aren't they all AAU institutions? You are thinking of the Big Ten (all except Neb) In the SEC, some are. Vandy is there, Florida is AAU. I'm not saying we need to compete with them on their academics anyway, I'm saying I don't want to have an SEC-type mentality (or reputation) that says to hell with graduation and APR scores. EDIT: Do you want this representing your school? I dont Edited October 10, 2012 by hm101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted October 10, 2012 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,714 Reputation: 10,932 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I said in another thread,I think I'd give him a chance if he cleaned house within his staff - at least oust the coordinators This is what I said in Leavitt's final 2 seasons. first thing Skip did was sh!tcan the old staff and bring in his own guys-- save a few here and there. Was that totally necessary? I can see pruning but to remove some key figures from that staff seemed negligent. Which key figures did he prune? Auman addressed this one page ago. No, he didn't ...... unless I missed a second post. Holtz kept McGeoghan, Scott and Patrick as full-time assistants, plus several full-time staff members (Carl Franks, Rich Rachel, Larry Antonucci, Jamie DeGerome). Honestly more than many coaches would coming into a new situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBull Posted October 10, 2012 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 207 Content Count: 3,458 Reputation: 1,428 Days Won: 19 Joined: 09/09/2007 Share Posted October 10, 2012 To paraphrase one of our AD's favorite lines: Even if Skip's team loses all its games, we'll still love him. We'll miss him, but we'll still love him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaUSFBull Posted October 10, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 263 Content Count: 24,750 Reputation: 3,107 Days Won: 87 Joined: 12/15/2009 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I said in another thread,I think I'd give him a chance if he cleaned house within his staff - at least oust the coordinators This is what I said in Leavitt's final 2 seasons. first thing Skip did was sh!tcan the old staff and bring in his own guys-- save a few here and there. Was that totally necessary? I can see pruning but to remove some key figures from that staff seemed negligent. Which key figures did he prune? Auman addressed this one page ago. No, he didn't ...... unless I missed a second post. Holtz kept McGeoghan, Scott and Patrick as full-time assistants, plus several full-time staff members (Carl Franks, Rich Rachel, Larry Antonucci, Jamie DeGerome). Honestly more than many coaches would coming into a new situation. Everyone else other than those guys. Duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted October 10, 2012 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,714 Reputation: 10,932 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I said in another thread,I think I'd give him a chance if he cleaned house within his staff - at least oust the coordinators This is what I said in Leavitt's final 2 seasons. first thing Skip did was sh!tcan the old staff and bring in his own guys-- save a few here and there. Was that totally necessary? I can see pruning but to remove some key figures from that staff seemed negligent. Which key figures did he prune? Auman addressed this one page ago. No, he didn't ...... unless I missed a second post. Holtz kept McGeoghan, Scott and Patrick as full-time assistants, plus several full-time staff members (Carl Franks, Rich Rachel, Larry Antonucci, Jamie DeGerome). Honestly more than many coaches would coming into a new situation. Everyone else other than those guys. Duh. So everyone let go was a key figure?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeG Posted October 10, 2012 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,984 Content Count: 19,737 Reputation: 3,809 Days Won: 173 Joined: 07/17/2003 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I said in another thread,I think I'd give him a chance if he cleaned house within his staff - at least oust the coordinators This is what I said in Leavitt's final 2 seasons. first thing Skip did was sh!tcan the old staff and bring in his own guys-- save a few here and there. Was that totally necessary? I can see pruning but to remove some key figures from that staff seemed negligent. Which key figures did he prune? Auman addressed this one page ago. No, he didn't ...... unless I missed a second post. Holtz kept McGeoghan, Scott and Patrick as full-time assistants, plus several full-time staff members (Carl Franks, Rich Rachel, Larry Antonucci, Jamie DeGerome). Honestly more than many coaches would coming into a new situation. Everyone else other than those guys. Duh. So everyone let go was a key figure?? please hold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeybull Posted October 10, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 4 Content Count: 231 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/06/2011 Share Posted October 10, 2012 That is why I don't believe in Skip. Of course every coach that's doing bad is going to imply we need time to build a program. It's a point you can't fault because it hasn't happened yet. He was the fricken head coach of ECU. He ain't his daddy. Plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantation Pete Posted October 10, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 17 Content Count: 397 Reputation: 25 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/22/2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Not to mention the SEC has a reputation of below-average academics They do? Aren't they all AAU institutions? You are thinking of the Big Ten (all except Neb) In the SEC, some are. Vandy is there, Florida is AAU. I'm not saying we need to compete with them on their academics anyway, I'm saying I don't want to have an SEC-type mentality (or reputation) that says to hell with graduation and APR scores. EDIT: Do you want this representing your school? I dont Missouri and Texas A&M are both AAU schools as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted October 10, 2012 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,714 Reputation: 10,932 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted October 10, 2012 That is why I don't believe in Skip. Of course every coach that's doing bad is going to imply we need time to build a program. It's a point you can't fault because it hasn't happened yet. He was the fricken head coach of ECU. He ain't his daddy. Plain and simple. So was Pat Dye ...... point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbryan Posted October 10, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 121 Content Count: 4,259 Reputation: 39 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/16/2006 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Zook was a good recruiter, just not a very good coach Huh, a positive and a negative, and therefore a failure at being a BCS coach. Holtz is not a very good recruiter, and he isn't an especially good coach as evidenced by the bad process in each game. Two negatives equates to a doubly bad coach and his record so far bears this out. This is third down and 20 for us and I say do a gameday unthinkable and punt. If we wait to punt we'll be looking at 4th and 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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