USF & Louisville to ACC?

[ForestBull]

So, people on the FSU boards that I read are talking about rumors they're hearing from SEC big boosters, saying that FSU and Clemson will join the SEC to bring the conference to 14 teams.

There was also a guy on the radio yesterday who said the ACC wants USF.

So maybe we'll see USF and Louisville head to the ACC when all is said and done.

Source!!!! not being a d*ck, just wanna read it lol

[Guest]

to add to my point it is good to have an in conference in-state rival.  I believe with the good relations we have with miami, they would go to bat for us.  florida has wanted to add fsu for awhile now.  They understand the importance of an in-state rival.

The bigger issue for Florida is another home OCC game.  Moving FSU from non-conference to in-conference would free up another slot... probably for another  home game.

[bulldozier1]

I would love for that to happen. I'm hoping that this happens. But the ACC would need Miami to stay for the health of the league.

[crambone]

When will all of this end?!?!

[bulldozier1]

Crambone, it's making the summer go by faster. Soon will be fall camp.

[Mama_Bull]

Sorry to say but those two schools would probably be the last two schools invited.  As I stated in another post, everything that has been floating around is that Rutgers and UCONN are the top two likely to be taken, which would give the ACC the entire Atlantic Coast TV wise, which is more people than any conference.

Rutgers is still very much be considered by the big 10.  they will probably expand in stages as being reported now.  Uconn adds basketball, but not much in the form of tv market, plus would BC want to take uconn.  WVU adds prestige in football, good basketball, rabid fan base but no big tv market.  That leaves cinci..eh, Pitt(possibility), louisville, and south florida (13th media market and a second florida presence if sec takes fsu).  Plus mama bull has been posting how fast usf is growing academically.  Don't sell usf short, they are a very attractive university for the ACC.  

I agree. I don't think "academics" will keep USF out of the ACC. USF has already shown itself to be one of the "up and coming" universities in the nation.

The Academics Of Expansion:

June 8th, 2010

http://www.mrsec.com/2010/06/the-academics-of-expansion-the-big-east/

http://www.mrsec.com/2010/06/the-academics-of-expansion-the-acc/

Did you know...

1185

Average SAT of Fall 2009 freshman class.

This is an increase of 140 points from the

Fall 2001 class.

41%

Freshman applicants granted admission to

USF in Fall 2009.

New Student Profile

First Time in College Students (FTIC)

Total 3157

Average SAT 1185

Median SAT 1180

Middle 50% SAT 1090-1270

Average ACT 26

Median ACT 26

Middle 50% ACT 23-28

Average HS GPA 3.801.9%

Top 10%/Top 20% HS34/58

Honors College 505

Honors College Average SAT1356

National Merit Scholars 22

National Achievement Scholars 2

National Hispanic Scholars 8

With a 213% increase between

2000-2007, no other American

university grew its federal

research enterprise at a faster

rate than USF, according to the

Chronicle of Higher Education’s

2009-10 Almanac.

USF placed among the nation’s top 20 “up and

coming universities†in the 2009 U.S. News &

World Report annual college rankings coming in

at number 14.

44th • 65th

The National Science Foundation ranks USF

44th in total research expenditures for public

universities and 65th for all universities*.

* USF surpasses several leading universities, including

Arizona State, Boston, Brown, Carnegie Mellon, Florida

State, Georgetown, and Princeton universities and the

universities of Miami, Notre Dame, and Virginia.

38th • 62nd

USF also ranks 38th in federal research

expenditures for public universities and 62nd

for all universities*.

* USF surpasses several leading universities, including

Brown, Arizona State, Florida State, Georgetown,

Louisiana State, North Carolina State, Princeton, and

Rutgers universities and the universities of Georgia

and Miami.

http://files.acad.usf.edu/Presentations-Reports/misc/USF-Points-of-Pride.pdf

http://usfweb2.usf.edu/infomart/eprofiles/profile20098E/eProfilesUSFSystem.htm

[dabull80]

Sorry to say but those two schools would probably be the last two schools invited.  As I stated in another post, everything that has been floating around is that Rutgers and UCONN are the top two likely to be taken, which would give the ACC the entire Atlantic Coast TV wise, which is more people than any conference.

Rutgers is still very much be considered by the big 10.  they will probably expand in stages as being reported now.  Uconn adds basketball, but not much in the form of tv market, plus would BC want to take uconn.  WVU adds prestige in football, good basketball, rabid fan base but no big tv market.  That leaves cinci..eh, Pitt(possibility), louisville, and south florida (13th media market and a second florida presence if sec takes fsu).  Plus mama bull has been posting how fast usf is growing academically.  Don't sell usf short, they are a very attractive university for the ACC.  

I agree. I don't think "academics" will keep USF out of the ACC. USF has already shown itself to be one of the "up and coming" universities in the nation.

The Academics Of Expansion:

June 8th, 2010

http://www.mrsec.com/2010/06/the-academics-of-expansion-the-big-east/

http://www.mrsec.com/2010/06/the-academics-of-expansion-the-acc/

Did you know...

1185

Average SAT of Fall 2009 freshman class.

This is an increase of 140 points from the

Fall 2001 class.

41%

Freshman applicants granted admission to

USF in Fall 2009.

New Student Profile

First Time in College Students (FTIC)

Total 3157

Average SAT 1185

Median SAT 1180

Middle 50% SAT 1090-1270

Average ACT 26

Median ACT 26

Middle 50% ACT 23-28

Average HS GPA 3.801.9%

Top 10%/Top 20% HS34/58

Honors College 505

Honors College Average SAT1356

National Merit Scholars 22

National Achievement Scholars 2

National Hispanic Scholars 8

With a 213% increase between

2000-2007, no other American

university grew its federal

research enterprise at a faster

rate than USF, according to the

Chronicle of Higher Education’s

2009-10 Almanac.

USF placed among the nation’s top 20 “up and

coming universities†in the 2009 U.S. News &

World Report annual college rankings coming in

at number 14.

44th • 65th

The National Science Foundation ranks USF

44th in total research expenditures for public

universities and 65th for all universities*.

* USF surpasses several leading universities, including

Arizona State, Boston, Brown, Carnegie Mellon, Florida

State, Georgetown, and Princeton universities and the

universities of Miami, Notre Dame, and Virginia.

38th • 62nd

USF also ranks 38th in federal research

expenditures for public universities and 62nd

for all universities*.

* USF surpasses several leading universities, including

Brown, Arizona State, Florida State, Georgetown,

Louisiana State, North Carolina State, Princeton, and

Rutgers universities and the universities of Georgia

and Miami.

http://files.acad.usf.edu/Presentations-Reports/misc/USF-Points-of-Pride.pdf

http://usfweb2.usf.edu/infomart/eprofiles/profile20098E/eProfilesUSFSystem.htm

  I know this is way off base but I got in an arguement with my son the Senior HS Kicker and he said no oneuses the SAT anymore because he only took the ACT - Does that make any sense ?  Is the ACT the big one now ?

[Dogma]

I know this is way off base but I got in an arguement with my son the Senior HS Kicker and he said no oneuses the SAT anymore because he only took the ACT - Does that make any sense ?  Is the ACT the big one now ?

Depends on the University

SAT USED to be the predominate test that everyone took

However, now its a toss up

But both tests are different... They test on different aspects, so some people may do better on the ACT than on the SAT.

And, not sure it has changed, the main reason students go for the ACT... NO ESSAY.

Its actually optional in the ACT.

Generally.. if your a better writer.. take the SAT.

If not, or hate essay writing (and how many people don't?) ...ACT

[cmhatter]

Sorry to say but those two schools would probably be the last two schools invited.  As I stated in another post, everything that has been floating around is that Rutgers and UCONN are the top two likely to be taken, which would give the ACC the entire Atlantic Coast TV wise, which is more people than any conference.

Rutgers is still very much be considered by the big 10.  they will probably expand in stages as being reported now.  Uconn adds basketball, but not much in the form of tv market, plus would BC want to take uconn.  WVU adds prestige in football, good basketball, rabid fan base but no big tv market.  That leaves cinci..eh, Pitt(possibility), louisville, and south florida (13th media market and a second florida presence if sec takes fsu).  Plus mama bull has been posting how fast usf is growing academically.  Don't sell usf short, they are a very attractive university for the ACC.  

I agree. I don't think "academics" will keep USF out of the ACC. USF has already shown itself to be one of the "up and coming" universities in the nation.

The Academics Of Expansion:

June 8th, 2010

http://www.mrsec.com/2010/06/the-academics-of-expansion-the-big-east/

http://www.mrsec.com/2010/06/the-academics-of-expansion-the-acc/

Did you know...

1185

Average SAT of Fall 2009 freshman class.

This is an increase of 140 points from the

Fall 2001 class.

41%

Freshman applicants granted admission to

USF in Fall 2009.

New Student Profile

First Time in College Students (FTIC)

Total 3157

Average SAT 1185

Median SAT 1180

Middle 50% SAT 1090-1270

Average ACT 26

Median ACT 26

Middle 50% ACT 23-28

Average HS GPA 3.801.9%

Top 10%/Top 20% HS34/58

Honors College 505

Honors College Average SAT1356

National Merit Scholars 22

National Achievement Scholars 2

National Hispanic Scholars 8

With a 213% increase between

2000-2007, no other American

university grew its federal

research enterprise at a faster

rate than USF, according to the

Chronicle of Higher Education’s

2009-10 Almanac.

USF placed among the nation’s top 20 “up and

coming universities†in the 2009 U.S. News &

World Report annual college rankings coming in

at number 14.

44th • 65th

The National Science Foundation ranks USF

44th in total research expenditures for public

universities and 65th for all universities*.

* USF surpasses several leading universities, including

Arizona State, Boston, Brown, Carnegie Mellon, Florida

State, Georgetown, and Princeton universities and the

universities of Miami, Notre Dame, and Virginia.

38th • 62nd

USF also ranks 38th in federal research

expenditures for public universities and 62nd

for all universities*.

* USF surpasses several leading universities, including

Brown, Arizona State, Florida State, Georgetown,

Louisiana State, North Carolina State, Princeton, and

Rutgers universities and the universities of Georgia

and Miami.

http://files.acad.usf.edu/Presentations-Reports/misc/USF-Points-of-Pride.pdf

http://usfweb2.usf.edu/infomart/eprofiles/profile20098E/eProfilesUSFSystem.htm

  I know this is way off base but I got in an arguement with my son the Senior HS Kicker and he said no oneuses the SAT anymore because he only took the ACT - Does that make any sense ?  Is the ACT the big one now ?

he is certainly misguided in that regard... SAT outweighs the ACT 10 out of 10 times.

[gibbsak]

due to my own laziness, I haven't done any research on this... when to the conference transfers take effect?