Recruiting Class Imploding?

[Ruger7mmmag]

For all the chicken Little's out there, the class ratings DON'T MEAN THAT MUCH. 

Look at Kansas as an example.  Here's how their classes were rated since 2004 - 56, 57, 47, 78, and 44.  Didn't seem to stop them from finishing in the Top 10 last year. 

USF's ratings since 2004 - 45, 54, 56, 45, and 55. 

Kansas was a FLUKE.  I'd rather look at consistency from say someone like Southern Cal, LSU, Texas, UF, etc.  

Dozer, I think you missed the biggest part of my post.  It wasn't losing Streeter or any of the others, it's the lack of VOLUME of these guys we were even able to talk to.  I know we can't win many of these battles, but to not be in many more battles than this is disturbing, especially when FSU has been AWFUL for a few seasons running and could possibly be on the brink of major NCAA sanctions, yet it didn't stop them from raking in tons of talent and being at the table of all the big recruits whether they got them or not.

[LakelandBull]

You guys need to calm down.  USF is a young team with a lot of talent.  They will make up for this year's losses next year.

[Jihme]

we got 1 DT... not good for an already thin line.  it's going to be a long year next year.

[windbane]

For all the chicken Little's out there, the class ratings DON'T MEAN THAT MUCH. 

Look at Kansas as an example.  Here's how their classes were rated since 2004 - 56, 57, 47, 78, and 44.  Didn't seem to stop them from finishing in the Top 10 last year. 

USF's ratings since 2004 - 45, 54, 56, 45, and 55. 

Kansas was a FLUKE.  I'd rather look at consistency from say someone like Southern Cal, LSU, Texas, UF, etc. 

Dozer, I think you missed the biggest part of my post.  It wasn't losing Streeter or any of the others, it's the lack of VOLUME of these guys we were even able to talk to.  I know we can't win many of these battles, but to not be in many more battles than this is disturbing, especially when FSU has been AWFUL for a few seasons running and could possibly be on the brink of major NCAA sanctions, yet it didn't stop them from raking in tons of talent and being at the table of all the big recruits whether they got them or not.

Kansas returns most of their team next year.  WVU never has high recruiting rankings.  Missourri doesn't either.  I guess WVU is a fluke every year.

This is one of our top 2 classes ever, and the other was last year.  But hey, we've had this argument before.  Results on the field mean a lot more than recruiting rankings.

[Bull Dozer]

For all the chicken Little's out there, the class ratings DON'T MEAN THAT MUCH. 

Look at Kansas as an example.  Here's how their classes were rated since 2004 - 56, 57, 47, 78, and 44.  Didn't seem to stop them from finishing in the Top 10 last year. 

USF's ratings since 2004 - 45, 54, 56, 45, and 55. 

Kansas was a FLUKE.  I'd rather look at consistency from say someone like Southern Cal, LSU, Texas, UF, etc. 

Dozer, I think you missed the biggest part of my post.  It wasn't losing Streeter or any of the others, it's the lack of VOLUME of these guys we were even able to talk to.  I know we can't win many of these battles, but to not be in many more battles than this is disturbing, especially when FSU has been AWFUL for a few seasons running and could possibly be on the brink of major NCAA sanctions, yet it didn't stop them from raking in tons of talent and being at the table of all the big recruits whether they got them or not.

How about teams like FSU, Pitt, and the U who sport tom classes year in and year out but haven't exactly been world beaters. 

Also you want the answer to the part of your post that i missed its really not that hard.  How many players has FSU sent to the NFL?  How many conference and national championships do they have?  How often do they sell out and pack bowden field?  How nice are their facilities?  We are no where near on a level playing field with the programs that you mention when it comes to history, nfl players, or facilities.  Is the gap closer than it was say 5 years ago?  Yes, but is there still a considerable gap to be made up? Yes.  Until we have the $$$ that those programs have that allow us to upgrade every single thing we have to being the best of the best and get a few things we are still missing (dining hall. new practice fields, athlete dorms etc) we will always just be an outside shot at the big time kids.  $$ runs college football even down to the most fundamental levels. 

[windbane]

we got 1 DT... not good for an already thin line.  it's going to be a long year next year.

You were looking for true freshmen to come in and start?  Right...

[BtownBull]

we got 1 DT... not good for an already thin line.  it's going to be a long year next year.

Long year or not, there might be some long games with teams who can execute an effective power run game.  I was going to point our lack of interior defensive lineman in this class as well.

[windbane]

And hey look, we just got George Baker, a 3-star that was up for grabs.  He chose us over Auburn and Rutgers.  Everyone step back and look at who we have, not the few guys we missed on.

[Bull Dozer]

And hey look, we just got George Baker, a 3-star that was up for grabs.

Hopefully this calms some people down or else this could be a record day for razor blade sales in the bay area. 

[beastiebull]

did Daniels go to Memphis?

For all those that say recruiting doesn't matter...a good class certainly can't/doesn't hurt.