CoolBull1 Posted July 1, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 104 Content Count: 1,433 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/04/2004 Share Posted July 1, 2006 I think you guys are wrong. As a parent of a child about the same age....things happen. Kids make mistakes...some are worse than others....in light of the world, this particular offense is not so bad. You've got to give kids a chance to make mistakes....this one was just stupid but the test of character is what happens from here. Unless he's a person whose behavior is detrimental to the team, I say you work with him from here with some very stern conversation and setting the future to be the crossroads. If there's a problem, you take the program to the right and tell him to go left.All that said....I have trouble understanding how a college athlete (I was one also back in the day) can feel ok with this sort of activity but it does happen all the time. I guess I was the only strange one.... ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiTownBull Posted July 1, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 879 Content Count: 5,691 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/27/2001 Share Posted July 1, 2006 ^ i don't think he should be kicked off the team but knowing he wants to play QB I think he will transfer so he can have a shot at playing QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted July 1, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 197 Content Count: 10,251 Reputation: 270 Days Won: 14 Joined: 08/16/2005 Share Posted July 1, 2006 I think you guys are wrong.  As a parent of a child about the same age....things happen.  Kids make mistakes...some are worse than others....in light of the world, this particular offense is not so bad.  You've got to give kids a chance to make mistakes....this one was just stupid but the test of character is what happens from here.  Unless he's a person whose behavior is detrimental to the team, I say you work with him from here with some very stern conversation and setting the future to be the crossroads.  If there's a problem, you take the program to the right and tell him to go left.All that said....I have trouble understanding how a college athlete (I was one also back in the day) can feel ok with this sort of activity but it does happen all the time.  I guess I was the only strange one.... ???I was with you on this, I think a 2-3 game suspension was all that was really needed. However, I trust that the decision that will be made is for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sheriff Posted July 1, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 721 Content Count: 6,754 Reputation: 806 Days Won: 19 Joined: 12/24/2001 Share Posted July 1, 2006 This is retarded... and Leavitt is retarded if he moves Hill to wide receiver instead of letting him compete against PJ and Matt. It makes you wonder if Leavitt is the one smoking weed...And by the way... many great players have smoked weed, been busted, and stayed at their respective position and achieved greatness (Dan Marino, Randy Moss, Michael Irving, Ricky Williams)...As bad as our QB play has been... we need everyone out there fighting for the top spot. Kids in college screw up... its funny they only mention the athletes from the group that got busted... Keep Hill at QB and let Matt and PJ beat him for the spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velcro Posted July 1, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 999 Content Count: 19,229 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/14/2002 Share Posted July 1, 2006 Hill will catch less than 10 balls at WR and transfer.  What a waste.  If that happens, so be it... it is a waste on his part, not ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRQ Posted July 1, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 617 Content Count: 4,879 Reputation: 24 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/14/2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 And by the way... many great players have smoked weed, been busted, and stayed at their respective position and achieved greatness (Dan Marino, Randy Moss, Michael Irving, Ricky Williams)...This is a perfect example of the moral relativism that is often expoused on this board and it is our society's acceptance of such that is the underlying cause of Hill's choices. He likely comes from a 'hood in which weed is 'child's play'.A bunch of white suburbanites have no idea what it is like to grow up in a culture in which over half of the homes have no father present. What do you expect when rap stars are the role models? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted July 1, 2006 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,088 Reputation: 10,859 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted July 1, 2006 Dan Marino, Randy Moss, Michael Irving, Ricky Williams Oh, that's good company... : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sheriff Posted July 1, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 721 Content Count: 6,754 Reputation: 806 Days Won: 19 Joined: 12/24/2001 Share Posted July 1, 2006 White people smoke weed too... Dan Marino... Did you not see that SRQ? I don't smoke weed, but I think we should legalize it so we can tax the **** out of the pot heads and take one less drug off the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Willie_Jokes_Yet Posted July 1, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 515 Content Count: 7,379 Reputation: 28 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/06/2002 Share Posted July 1, 2006 Hmmm this kids crime is right up there with him drinking a beer before he turned 21; neither are felonies. I dont agree with his actions or his choices but get off the high horse. I can tell you right now, if you go to any private school in this country you will find many white Privileged kids who grew up with both parents and went to church all their lives hanging out smoking pot. Its not a moral issue, its a legal issue. People smoked pot for many many years, it was neither illegal nor immoral. This is a perfect example of the moral relativism that is often expoused on this board and it is our society's acceptance of such that is the underlying cause of Hill's choices.  He likely comes from a 'hood in which weed is 'child's play'.A bunch of white suburbanites have no idea what it is like to grow up in a culture in which over half of the homes have no father present.  What do you expect when rap stars are the role models? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltliqua Posted July 1, 2006 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 15 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/30/2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 Yes, your post was intended as a flame. Hill's "strike one" occurred when he was still in HS. The "strike two" is pretty serious, but smoking pot occurs on every team in the country. The coaching staff, if not the university, will take appropriate action. I find it a bit of an insult that you say these things are "tolerated".The bright spot to this is that the truest QB we have, Matt Grothe, will be ready to go this summer.Honestly, I do not like USF one bit, but this wasn't a flame. I have heard more of these kind of stories regarding USF in the past two years than all other Florida schools.Just giving an outsider's perspective. There has got to be a point where some of the boosters and/or administration start to express frustration over this. USF football will not meet its goals if these types of events continue to occur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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