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[jeremyttt]

We are at the point where we are seeing the big swings in the pendulum in both directions. One swing was the years the NCAA had total control of players, money, etc...Now it has swung with the NIL and players having some power with the ability to transfer. It will find its equilibrium... eventually...First hurdle, are they student-athletes or employees? With professional sports, they don't sign every player to "year-to-year" agreements or contracts like they do in college. As a result, teams have stability and a general idea of when athletes will be moving on. 

[BDYZR]

Cyber security and AI are supposed to be the careers of the near future. I’ll throw a couple more out there, SPORTS ACCOUNTING. Would probably require CPA. And a law degree in sports contracts. I’m talking at the high school and college levels.

[jeremyttt]

I can speak to the sports accounting. A fellow work colleague has a few clients who are, coaches, and trainers for MLB teams. To say it's tedious is an understatement. Florida does not have a state income tax, but other states do. So when a Florida base team plays in a state that has a state income tax, the portion of the salary that was earned by playing in that state for "x" amount of days does qualify for that state's income tax. But with that said, there's one plus for USF, no state income tax on NIL deals  

[Bull Matrix]

At the end of the day, I do believe the NIL has helped USF out. And I do believe that it will continue to help USF out.

[Triple B]

3 hours ago, John Lewis said:

Looking forward to watching Reid play more minutes next season.

 

3 hours ago, panchosanchez99 said:

Not sure he will get much more because Kasen Jennings returns and he is pretty good as well.

We just lost roughly 76 minutes of guard play per game. JR averaged 23 min/gm. He’ll be at 30+ unless CAAR brings in a couple of super studs at that position. 

[USFBulls12]

1 hour ago, Grateful Dad said:

Capitalism?  Free Trade?  National economic systems?  You set yourself up as the only fair person, laugh at the rest of us hypocrites, and then pivot to national economic philosophy?  We're talking about college football, just as a reminder. 

These are not your best posts.  Put the shovel down.  The hole is just getting deeper.

Yes, and if he wants to make a reference to capitalism and stick with that argument, this system was enacted by the powerful cabal of college sports elites to deepen their pockets and is not meant to make things better for everyone across the board. It will allow those with systems that have already been established with massive donor pools to prosper while destroying those who are still working on things. These elite members are now circling the wagons to consolidate everything for themselves at the top and force everyone else (that includes USF) out and you're arguing in favor of it. To continue this further, USF is a mom and pop store that will be eaten up by the big box retailers, along with dozens (CFB) if not hundreds (CBB) of other D1 programs around the country. As a "capitalist" system, that's what happens over time as cronyism enters. This isn't a pure capitalist system being set up in college sports from stage 1, it's a system of corruption and greed entering as the nationwide capitalist system simultaneously enters its final stage. For those school who will now go without the ability to put food in their kid's mouth (maintain and grow their programs), that's a problem. Do we let the market simply take out the weak college sports programs while those who already have the upper hand continue to benefit? Does the government interfere in this "free" system and increase spending of tax payer money to keep the status quo? Or should the new system have never been installed for the betterment of maintaining the system as soundly as it was? A NIL system like this is going to have harsh consequences for those who don't have the resources. Additionally, those who don't have the resources will never be able to get those resources to even get going. It'll eventually be like 1972 Dolphins playing against high school teams. Those "high school teams" will not be able to compete, fans won't have interest in them, no one will buy tickets, TV time or merchandise. NIL systems for the lower tiers will dry up so who will pay those athletes? No one? That defeats the purpose of even having those teams which are now on the level of a community league squad. Now we have professional sports. Why do you think the NBA can't have 351 basketball teams like D1 basketball? There just aren't enough fans, not enough money to be made, and the players wouldn't get paid as much -- except by the top 30 NBA teams that currently exist -- it would dilute and degrade that whole system. All of this will bull will cause these programs to go belly up without MORE government assistance and that can't happen when government spending is out of control and across some metrics, bankrupt. What's the solution?

[Bull94]

2 hours ago, Grateful Dad said:

Capitalism?  Free Trade?  National economic systems?  You set yourself up as the only fair person, laugh at the rest of us hypocrites, and then pivot to national economic philosophy?  We're talking about college football, just as a reminder. 

These are not your best posts.  Put the shovel down.  The hole is just getting deeper.

Not sure what you mean.

You suggested coaches should sit a year if they take another job.

Would you have to sit a year if you wanted to change jobs?

 

[Cmr3]

1 hour ago, Triple B said:

 

We just lost roughly 76 minutes of guard play per game. JR averaged 23 min/gm. He’ll be at 30+ unless CAAR brings in a couple of super studs at that position. 

I think he will bring in 1 or 2 shooting guards or small forwards. Hopefully his nephew!! 

[Bull94]

52 minutes ago, USFBulls12 said:

Yes, and if he wants to make a reference to capitalism and stick with that argument, this system was enacted by the powerful cabal of college sports elites to deepen their pockets and is not meant to make things better for everyone across the board. It will allow those with systems that have already been established with massive donor pools to prosper while destroying those who are still working on things. These elite members are now circling the wagons to consolidate everything for themselves at the top and force everyone else (that includes USF) out and you're arguing in favor of it. To continue this further, USF is a mom and pop store that will be eaten up by the big box retailers, along with dozens (CFB) if not hundreds (CBB) of other D1 programs around the country. As a "capitalist" system, that's what happens over time as cronyism enters. This isn't a pure capitalist system being set up in college sports from stage 1, it's a system of corruption and greed entering as the nationwide capitalist system simultaneously enters its final stage. For those school who will now go without the ability to put food in their kid's mouth (maintain and grow their programs), that's a problem. Do we let the market simply take out the weak college sports programs while those who already have the upper hand continue to benefit? Does the government interfere in this "free" system and increase spending of tax payer money to keep the status quo? Or should the new system have never been installed for the betterment of maintaining the system as soundly as it was? A NIL system like this is going to have harsh consequences for those who don't have the resources. Additionally, those who don't have the resources will never be able to get those resources to even get going. It'll eventually be like 1972 Dolphins playing against high school teams. Those "high school teams" will not be able to compete, fans won't have interest in them, no one will buy tickets, TV time or merchandise. NIL systems for the lower tiers will dry up so who will pay those athletes? No one? That defeats the purpose of even having those teams which are now on the level of a community league squad. Now we have professional sports. Why do you think the NBA can't have 351 basketball teams like D1 basketball? There just aren't enough fans, not enough money to be made, and the players wouldn't get paid as much -- except by the top 30 NBA teams that currently exist -- it would dilute and degrade that whole system. All of this will bull will cause these programs to go belly up without MORE government assistance and that can't happen when government spending is out of control and across some metrics, bankrupt. What's the solution?

are you a marxist?

USF will be fine. we may not end up at the top level but with a minimal donor base and not much demand for the product it's understandable.

You think we should be "allowed" to compete with programs that bring in 5x our revenue by I guess spreading the wealth. That's not how the real world works. The rays have to compete with the yankees when they spend 3x what the rays do.

sorry but the power is shifting to the labor(players) and away from the capital(schools).

not much they can do about it and honestly with the ridiculous sums of money being thrown around the players deserve a chunk.

 

Edited April 9 by Bull94

[olafberserker]

12 minutes ago, Bull94 said:

are you a marxist?

USF will be fine. we may not end up at the top level but with a minimal donor base and not much demand for the product it's understandable.

You think we should be "allowed" to compete with programs that bring in 5x our revenue by I guess spreading the wealth. That's not how the real world works. The rays have to compete with the yankees when they spend 3x what the rays do.

sorry but the power is shifting to the labor(players) and away from the capital(schools).

not much they can do about it and honestly with the ridiculous sums of money being thrown around the players deserve a chunk.

 

Again .... collegiate athletics vs. professional sports