Bullcocky Posted November 18, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 10 Content Count: 329 Reputation: 140 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2019 Share Posted November 18, 2023 First off, I know I get called out by pookah and red just about every week as a bad fan in their podcast. I know this because I've listened to every episode since they started it. I love the show. First off, I want to say that it's bitter sweet that the two biggest sources of coverage of this team are fan made podcasts. I also listen weekly to the daily stampede. Kudos to you guys for covering this team weakly. I love you guys for that. It's also sad though that you guys are the ones leading the charge for news (outside usf) for this team. I remember when I first started donating in 2006 that we had two professional beat reporters covering the team and attending every practice and giving daily updates. Those days are long gone. With that disclaimer out of the way, the reason that I stopped going to games and watching usf football this year is, like pookah and red were promoting, ive been rowing the boat for a very long time. I just don't know where our end destination is? Does anybody know if usf athletics has a 10 year plan of where they want to be in the next 10 years? I am a successful small business owner and I always have a 10 year plan. I learned how to do that through the muma college of business at USF. I always keep in mind my competition and I strive to overtake the industry leaders in my region through achievable goals. The plan should always have achievable goals and benchmarks on how to get there. I haven't seen that from usf personally. When I started donating in 2006, I asked both Doug Woolard and Leavitt where they saw they program in 10 years. I was told that they saw us with multiple national championships based on the recruiting in the Tampa Bay area and the strength of the usf community. Now I ask myself if we are closer to a national championship than we were in 2006? I'm about half a million deep with personal donations and season ticket packages plus travel to games. Ive been rowing. It just seems like we've been rowing without a destination. I don't mind rowing if I know where we are going. I don't want to row out on the ocean in circles hoping that eventually we find a good port of call. If usf came out tomorrow and showed me a 10 year plan of how they could be the premier football university in the state of Florida and overtake UF and FSU, I would be back on board and rowing. We need yearly steps on how to get there with benchmarks for donations and income though. I think USF made the right hire with Golesh and the right call with the OCS. I just want them to come out and say that these are beginning steps in our 10 year plan to become the premier football school in the state and we need x to get there. My gripes are with the leadership in the administration. I don't want to support and spend so much money and time supporting a novelty product if that's all we realistically intend to be. The steps this year are great, but I'm looking at the long game. With that said, if we are committed to a natty in 10. How do we get there? How do we financially compete with and overtake UF and FSU? Let's get a plan and get it done. I will support the team through the growing pains, ive been doing that for many years thinking we were getting there. I just want to make sure we have a vision and realistic plan on how to get to where we want to go. Is everybody on this board, leadership, and the community committed to a natty and becoming the premier football school in the state in 10 years? I would invest in that. Where are we rowing to long term realistically? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm101 Posted November 18, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 173 Content Count: 7,008 Reputation: 2,262 Days Won: 12 Joined: 06/11/2010 Share Posted November 18, 2023 https://gousfbulls.com/documents/2022/8/31/USF_Athletics_Strategic_Plan_2022-2023.pdf USF Master Plan Home WWW.GOUSFBULLSMP.COM Year after year, the university of south Florida defies what a modern university "should" be able to accomplish. with incredible velocity, we... see both of these links Kelly said quite clearly the purpose of laying this out is so donors and fans like you (and me) know specifically what we're attempting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullcocky Posted November 18, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 10 Content Count: 329 Reputation: 140 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, hm101 said: https://gousfbulls.com/documents/2022/8/31/USF_Athletics_Strategic_Plan_2022-2023.pdf USF Master Plan Home WWW.GOUSFBULLSMP.COM Year after year, the university of south Florida defies what a modern university "should" be able to accomplish. with incredible velocity, we... see both of these links Kelly said quite clearly the purpose of laying this out is so donors and fans like you (and me) know specifically what we're attempting Thank you for sharing this. All of these are great steps to take. I don't see anything in there about overtaking the state leaders though. How do we do that financially? What will that take? At what point do we out recruit the industry leaders in the country and provide the top product? For instance, if we grow our donar base by 10 million a year, can we overtake the competition? Edited November 18, 2023 by Bullcocky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Posted November 18, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 74 Content Count: 12,641 Reputation: 3,329 Days Won: 25 Joined: 10/16/2017 Share Posted November 18, 2023 18 minutes ago, Bullcocky said: Thank you for sharing this. All of these are great steps to take. I don't see anything in there about overtaking the state leaders though. How do we do that financially? What will that take? At what point do we out recruit the industry leaders in the country and provide the top product? For instance, if we grow our donar base by 10 million a year, can we overtake the competition? Winning our way into a better conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullcocky Posted November 18, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 10 Content Count: 329 Reputation: 140 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Outlaw said: Winning our way into a better conference. That's speculative though. There is no guarantee that we are getting called up. Assuming we are in the American forever, what will it take to provide the finances to become the premier program in the state of Florida and be able to beat out UF and FSU financially and in terms of NIL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjlovecub Posted November 18, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 127 Content Count: 2,118 Reputation: 522 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/27/2007 Share Posted November 18, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Bullcocky said: That's speculative though. There is no guarantee that we are getting called up. Assuming we are in the American forever, what will it take to provide the finances to become the premier program in the state of Florida and be able to beat out UF and FSU financially and in terms of NIL? You can’t if we are in the American. If we went to the Big10 we’d have a legit chance. The interest from donors just won’t be at the same level in the aac aside from the diehards . out of curiosity- how do you access the podcasts you referenced Edited November 18, 2023 by jjlovecub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat941 Posted November 18, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 79 Content Count: 3,002 Reputation: 824 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/28/2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 33 minutes ago, Bullcocky said: Thank you for sharing this. All of these are great steps to take. I don't see anything in there about overtaking the state leaders though. How do we do that financially? What will that take? At what point do we out recruit the industry leaders in the country and provide the top product? For instance, if we grow our donar base by 10 million a year, can we overtake the competition? This makes me think of that Ross Dellenger article about the steps that SMU donors took to get to the P5/P4. If we approach our pursuits similarly, imagine what we could attain! Inside SMU's pursuit of the Power Five — 'It's a couple hundred million dollars. I'm not losing sleep over it.' SPORTS.YAHOO.COM SMU is headed for greener pastures in the ACC. How it all happened is a Texas-sized story filled with billionaires and big decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullcocky Posted November 18, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 10 Content Count: 329 Reputation: 140 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, jjlovecub said: You can’t if we are in the American. If we went to the Big10 we’d have a legit chance. The interest from donors just won’t be at the same level in the aac aside from the diehards . out of curiosity- how do you access the podcasts you referenced That's what I'm worried about and I'm saving my time and money commitments until I see a way forward to becoming the premier program in the state. If there is a plan to do that in this conference, I will help. Things are just too speculative at this point to invest serious money. I like both of the podcasts. I'm not a sports better, because I try not to be stupid with money, so I don't like the weekly betting pod that the stampede has been producing. I liked their film break down episodes. Carrying cord is really funny and gives me a lot of laughs. They are both solid and the best news/ takes that we have at the moment. I recommend both. Edited November 18, 2023 by Bullcocky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Posted November 18, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 74 Content Count: 12,641 Reputation: 3,329 Days Won: 25 Joined: 10/16/2017 Share Posted November 18, 2023 19 minutes ago, Bullcocky said: That's speculative though. There is no guarantee that we are getting called up. Assuming we are in the American forever, what will it take to provide the finances to become the premier program in the state of Florida and be able to beat out UF and FSU financially and in terms of NIL? If we are stuck in the American then we have zero shot to be a premier team in Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullcocky Posted November 18, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 10 Content Count: 329 Reputation: 140 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Outlaw said: If we are stuck in the American then we have zero shot to be a premier team in Florida. Will USF let us know if we are in talks of leaving or not? I'm assuming that our strategic plans are based on being in the American long term? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now