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Nothing but truth from the Times- How UCF left USF in the dust

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9 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Simple they won and made good hires on several coaches in a row. They invested in athletics when our former president Judy neglected  athletics to go all in on academics. 3/4 coaches since Leavitt had losing records and one of them put usf at the bottom of fbs football. Their athletics directors committ to winning while our athletics director committed to stability.

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jjlovecub
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Stop feeding it. Not reading it. Do any of you need them to tell us what happened? We all know.  Whine a little, agree with them, bash the university or do what USF is doing - learn from your mistakes

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I figured I’d get here late and some UCF fans would have invaded this topic. That said, aside from the shot at the end, the article is fair. I think most topic related posts from 2009-2014 reflec

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Nothing that we didn’t know as Bulls fans. I wonder if they wrote an article back when USF got into Big East on how we left ucf behind? Anyways as we all well know nothing stays the same. I belie

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10 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Simple they won and made good hires on several coaches in a row. They invested in athletics when our former president Judy neglected  athletics to go all in on academics. 3/4 coaches since Leavitt had losing records and one of them put usf at the bottom of fbs football. Their athletics directors committ to winning while our athletics director committed to stability.

Didn’t possible future ACC conference mate crush UCiF in the bowl game after they got crushed by Tulane ?? Didn’t UCiF escape to win against JS USF teams ?? Am I missing something??

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18 minutes ago, Bull Matrix said:

Didn’t possible future ACC conference mate crush UCiF in the bowl game after they got crushed by Tulane ?? Didn’t UCiF escape to win against JS USF teams ?? Am I missing something??

Duke an actual ACC team beat UCF but their season was a huge success compared to ours. I hate them but their athletic directors seem to know how to find coaches that don't lose more games than they win over time. Our AD's seem to specialize in finding guys that lose a lot more games than they win. For example they had the laughable 0-12 season, conversations and changes were obviously made with their young inexperienced coach Frost, and he turned it around. We had a guy that had two seasons of straight losing practically with one fbs win against temple and our athletic director extended him for stability. There is a big difference in how they value winning compared the the current Ad.  I want USF to get back to being a top 50 program bare minimum and stomping UCF again, but we need to find coaches and AD's that value winning over stability.

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Duke an actual ACC team beat UCF but their season was a huge success compared to ours. I hate them but their athletic directors seem to know how to find coaches that don't lose more games than they win over time. Our AD's seem to specialize in finding guys that lose a lot more games than they win.

Success?  They seem to be going downhill to be honest. They were good with Heupel who already has made Tenn good. Hopefully part of his former coaching staff can now make USF good. 

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Success?  They seem to be going downhill to be honest. They were good with Heupel who already has made Tenn good. Hopefully part of his former coaching staff can now make USF good. 

I would call their last 5 seasons successful compared to our last 5 seasons. I don't want to post a comparison of the win loss records because it is just sad and embarrassing at this point to compare them. Time to step up and win or find an AD that values winning to  help create  and sustain  a winning football program again. Harlan and Leroy Selmon valued winning and committing to winning . Sadly they both moved on in different ways. 

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Hmm they seem spiteful.  

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I would call their last 5 seasons successful compared to our last 5 seasons. I don't want to post a comparison of the win loss records because it is just sad and embarrassing at this point to compare them. Time to step up and win or find an AD that values winning to  help create  and sustain  a winning football program again. Harlan and Leroy Selmon . Sadly they both moved on in different ways. 

Let’s see if they can get out of the big 12 cellar….

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Duke an actual ACC team beat UCF but their season was a huge success compared to ours. I hate them but their athletic directors seem to know how to find coaches that don't lose more games than they win over time. Our AD's seem to specialize in finding guys that lose a lot more games than they win. For example they had the laughable 0-12 season, conversations and changes were obviously made with their young inexperienced coach Frost, and he turned it around. We had a guy that had two seasons of straight losing practically with one fbs win against temple and our athletic director extended him for stability. There is a big difference in how they value winning compared the the current Ad.  I want USF to get back to being a top 50 program bare minimum and stomping UCF again, but we need to find coaches and AD's that value winning over stability.

Sure but they are average at best. Better than us? Yes. Better positioned than us? Yes. But they are an average, middle of the road athletics program. 

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Let’s see if they can get out of the big 12 cellar….

I hope they do worse then win one conference game in three seasons, but it is unlikely. The b12 has some really good teams, some good teams, some mediocre teams, and really two bad teams recently (Iowa State and WV). Ironically we hired some Iowa State guys. Iowa Sate was good and decent before the last year. WV is the only team their with back to back losing seasons in conference play.

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36 minutes ago, flsportsfan83 said:

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You're not just getting to the party...you've been around.

 

46 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Simple they won and made good hires on several coaches in a row. They invested in athletics when our former president Judy neglected  athletics to go all in on academics. 3/4 coaches since Leavitt had losing records and one of them put usf at the bottom of fbs football. Their athletics directors committ to winning while our athletics director committed to stability.

But how many times must it be said?

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