Mission9 Posted October 7, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 60 Content Count: 4,078 Reputation: 469 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/09/2003 Share Posted October 7, 2022 1 hour ago, CousinRicky said: Offense isn't the biggest of our worries. Has USF had a more ineffective DL is its history? This has to be the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mission9 Posted October 7, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 60 Content Count: 4,078 Reputation: 469 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/09/2003 Share Posted October 7, 2022 52 minutes ago, Orlando Bull said: This. In all honesty, this is why Strong drove us crazy in QFs senior year. Q could run an offense to score fast, but Strong wanted to slow things down so that his defense wasn't exposed. Defensive coach wanted to protect the defense. I don't know what CJS is doing, but our defense is weaker than the offense (which is saying a lot), and the offense needs to play ball control a little bit to at the very least keep them as fresh as possible. I never understood this position Strong had. If the team scores often, it should not matter how fast they do it. Then, the defense only has to make a few stops as opposed to many in order to win. You can slow them down in the 4th when you have a 2TD lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Bull Posted October 7, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 148 Content Count: 5,900 Reputation: 628 Days Won: 5 Joined: 09/02/2007 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Just now, Mission9 said: I never understood this position Strong had. If the team scores often, it should not matter how fast they do it. Then, the defense only has to make a few stops as opposed to many in order to win. You can slow them down in the 4th when you have a 2TD lead. He's a defensive coach, didn't want his defenses ranked in the bottom third of college football every year, that would look bad on him. Look at it from his perspective... 2016 under CWT - 11-2, defense ranked no. 120 2017 under Strong - 10-2, defense ranked no. 37 See how great Strong did with the same players and no actual improvement to the defense. No drop off really in record (not sure why we played 1 less game in 2017). His only miscalculation was that it took more than 1 year to get that UT stink off of him. This was a huge resume boost for him and if someone came calling, Flowers would have single-handedly gotten 2 average coaches paid like they were top tier. You are thinking like someone who would do what it takes to win, not someone who is trying to protect their reputation. And there lies the problem. A good coach will evaluate the talent they have and plan around that. A bad coach has a plan, and tries to make the talent work within their system. Leavitt always had a good defense, but on offense, he had a run-first group (Andre Hall years), a balanced offense with pocket passer (Blackwell years), Spread Option offense (Grothe/Daniels). He and his staff used the tools they had. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull94 Posted October 7, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 22 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted October 7, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, CousinRicky said: Wasn't there also a meeting with the Baylor coach at one point? The mind isn't what it once was but that seems stuck in there somewhere. I wouldn't doubt it. Edited October 7, 2022 by Bull94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullrush33 Posted October 7, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 85 Content Count: 3,806 Reputation: 793 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/20/2008 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Just checking in, Is he gone yet? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mission9 Posted October 7, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 60 Content Count: 4,078 Reputation: 469 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/09/2003 Share Posted October 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Orlando Bull said: You are thinking like someone who would do what it takes to win I know. I thought that is what was important, not stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted October 7, 2022 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,331 Content Count: 97,075 Reputation: 10,845 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted October 7, 2022 See?!?!?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Style Posted October 7, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 109 Content Count: 21,119 Reputation: 4,625 Days Won: 39 Joined: 09/14/2007 Share Posted October 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Bullrush33 said: Just checking in, Is he gone yet? Nope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Style Posted October 7, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 109 Content Count: 21,119 Reputation: 4,625 Days Won: 39 Joined: 09/14/2007 Share Posted October 7, 2022 22 minutes ago, Brad said: See?!?!?!?!? At least Butch Davis had UNC ranked before various academic scandals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinRicky Posted October 7, 2022 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 583 Content Count: 22,719 Reputation: 5,860 Days Won: 109 Joined: 09/13/2007 Share Posted October 7, 2022 23 minutes ago, Brad said: See?!?!?!?!? We're that irrelevant now? Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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