Trying to visualize our dline improvement

[bulloni]

I know recruiting rankings aren't the best grade but I don't watch film, so if someone else who does wants to point out a higher ranked player that sucks or vice versa please do. But I'm comparing the players on the dline that got playing time last year with the new additions to our dline

bold: new addition to the dline

italicized: returning dline player

regular: dline player graduating

 

RANKED:

Clyde Pinder Jr (89.59)

Jamari Stewart (86.15)

Ryan Thaxton (84.97) 

Rashawn Yates (84.93)

Eddie Kelly (84.16)

James Ash (83.82)

Tramel Logan (83.56)

Tyrone Barber (83.10)

Nick Bags (82.63)

Jason Vaughn (82.50)

Darrien Grant (80.86)

Kevin Kegler (79.45)

Kelvin Pinkney (78.18)

Thad Mangum (not rated)

Blake Green (not rated)

 

At first glance it does seem the pedigree of player at the position will be improving next season. Here is the average ranking of players on the dline this year vs next year (not rated players were a 75.00 for this calculation):

2021: 80.76 (looks like the level of talent of the average player on a low 100s team in 247's total talent composite (109 NIU's avg player is 80.68, 110 Nevada's avg player is 80.54))

2022: 84.24  (looks like the level of talent of the average player on a mid 50s team in 247's total talent composite (54 Cincy's avg player is 84.78, 55 SMU's avg player is 84.02))

So our talent at the position will go from bottom of D1 (no surprise) to around the top of the G5. If we get the results to follow we should be looking forward to a bowl game this time next year.

[bulloni]

A major thing I noticed doing this is how bad we were at the interior DL position last year. Our DT's really should have been depth pieces at this level of football, not on the field for every snap. Hopefully with Pinder, Ash, and Bags we can actually have some difference makers there

[E.T.]

14 minutes ago, bulloni said:

I know recruiting rankings aren't the best grade but I don't watch film, so if someone else who does wants to point out a higher ranked player that sucks or vice versa please do. But I'm comparing the players on the dline that got playing time last year with the new additions to our dline

bold: new addition to the dline

italicized: returning dline player

regular: dline player graduating

 

RANKED:

Clyde Pinder Jr (89.59)

Jamari Stewart (86.15)

Ryan Thaxton (84.97) 

Rashawn Yates (84.93)

Eddie Kelly (84.16)

James Ash (83.82)

Tramel Logan (83.56)

Tyrone Barber (83.10)

Nick Bags (82.63)

Jason Vaughn (82.50)

Darrien Grant (80.86)

Kevin Kegler (79.45)

Kelvin Pinkney (78.18)

Thad Mangum (not rated)

Blake Green (not rated)

 

At first glance it does seem the pedigree of player at the position will be improving next season. Here is the average ranking of players on the dline this year vs next year (not rated players were a 75.00 for this calculation):

2021: 80.76 (looks like the level of talent of the average player on a low 100s team in 247's total talent composite (109 NIU's avg player is 80.68, 110 Nevada's avg player is 80.54))

2022: 84.24  (looks like the level of talent of the average player on a mid 50s team in 247's total talent composite (54 Cincy's avg player is 84.78, 55 SMU's avg player is 84.02))

So our talent at the position will go from bottom of D1 (no surprise) to around the top of the G5. If we get the results to follow we should be looking forward to a bowl game this time next year.

Clyde Pinder Jr (89.59)

Jamari Stewart (86.15)

Rashawn Yates (84.93)

Eddie Kelly (84.16)

James Ash (83.82)

Tramel Logan (83.56)

Nick Bags (82.63)

Jason Vaughn (82.50)

Darrien Grant (80.86)

Need to add Williams and Hobbs from 2020 Class that "gray/blue" shirted.

Excited about this DL Group for 2022.

Edited November 30, 2021 by E.T.

[bulloni]

4 minutes ago, E.T. said:

Need to add Williams and Hobbs from 2020 Class that "gray/blue" shirted.

Excited about this DL Group for 2022.

Good call. Williams is an 83.02 and Hobbs is an 82.81 so even our depth at the DT position will be better (on paper) than our starters last year. A bad dline makes everyone else on defense look worse.

Could see guys like Grier/Boyles/Davis really break out when the opposing QB's don't have 6 seconds to throw every dropback 

[Gatorbull325]

Here is another breakdown of our D-Line. I left out the linebackers. This Eddie Kelly guys looks serious!

Incoming -

• Eddie Kelly DE
• James Ash DT
• Clyde Pinder Jr DT
• Nick Bags DT
• Jacquez Williams DT
• Jhalin Hobbs DT

Returning D-linemen: 

• Jamari Stewart DE
• Rashawn Yates DE
• Tramel Logan DE
• Jason Vaughn DE
• TRAMEL LOGAN DE
• LE'VONTAE CAMIEL DE
• COLBY SMITH DE
• KEEON TERRELL DE
• DE'JUAN SEASE DT

My transfer wish list (I rather get 2 more Freshman or transfers) :

• Tyrone Barber DE
• Darian Grant DE

My Portal/Recruiting Wish list - 

• Mizzou - Johnny Walker DE (James Ash HS teammate)
• Indiana - D.K. Bonhomme DE
• Independence (KS) CC - Tra Thomas DE/LB
• Joker Gill

Graduating or Transfering - 

• Kevin Kegler  DT
• Kelvin Pinkney DT
• Thad Mangum DT
• Blake Green DT
• Ryan Thaxton DE
• Stacy Kirby DT/DE
   

Edited November 30, 2021 by Gatorbull325

[E.T.]

Expecting Tra Thomas to be a BULL !

[BrowardBull17]

2 hours ago, bulloni said:

A major thing I noticed doing this is how bad we were at the interior DL position last year. Our DT's really should have been depth pieces at this level of football, not on the field for every snap. Hopefully with Pinder, Ash, and Bags we can actually have some difference makers there

It'll be nice to have DT's at or above 300lbs next season. 

[NewEnglandBull]

Any of these guys can play LB? I still think we need an upgrade there.

[E.T.]

Just now, NewEnglandBull said:

Any of these guys can play LB? I still think we need an upgrade there.

Agree . . . Kelly could ply DE or LB ... we also have a JuCo LB coming in.

From the 2020 Class:

CJ Ross

Davon Hicks

Amer Amer

[Gatorbull325]

My new Defensive line breakdown with the linebackers listed- 

Returning
Keeon Terrell	DE	6-3	Fr.	240
Tramel Logan	DE	6-2	So.	232
De'Juan Sease	DT	6-2	Jr.	290
Le'Vontae Camiel	DE	6-1	So.	235
Colby Smith	DE	6-3	Fr.	269
Rashawn Yates	DE	6-3	Sr.	280
My Outgoing Transfer WISH list
Jason Vaughn	DE	6-5	Jr.	252	Played in 20 games and no sacks and 3.5 TFL
Darrien Grant	DL	6-4	Sr.	263	Played in 30 games and NO SACKS and .5 TFL
Tyrone Barber	DE	6-3	Sr.	257	Played in 22 games and 2 SACKS and 4 TFL
Incoming
Eddie Kelly DE
James Ash DT
Clyde Pinder Jr DT
Nick Bags DT
Jacquez Williams DT
Jhalin Hobbs DT
Jhalyn Shuler LB
My Incoming Transfer wish list
Indiana - D.K. Bonhomme DE
Juco - Tra Thomas DE/LB
Juco - Joker Gill DE
USC DL Jake Lichtenstein
Minn James Gordon LB
FSU Jaleel McRae LB
Linebackers
Antonio Grier	LB	6-1	Sr.	213
Davon Hicks	LB	6-0	Fr.	218
Dwayne Boyles	LB	6-3	Sr.	228
Demaurez Bellamy	LB	5-10	Jr.	228
Mac Harris	LB	6-0	So.	230
Keyon Helton	LB	6-0	Jr.	221
Brian Norris	LB	6-2	Jr.	225
CJ Ross	LB	5-11	Fr.	211
Randal Copeland	LB	6-0	Jr.	212
Dylan Ridolph	LB	6-0	Fr.	225
Amer Amer	LB	6-1	Fr.	226
Reggie Johnson II	LB	6-0	Fr.	212
Andrew Mims	LB	6-1	Sr.	222

Edited December 7, 2021 by Gatorbull325