Patrick Macon medical redshirt?

[bullsfan1983]

9 hours ago, Corey lea said:

The point is that they do and he is petitioning for a sixth. If he gets it...then great. I know it sucks to be wrong, but you are arguing with a former d1 and professional baseball player and scout. Most of the time I just listen to some of the garbage spewed on here...others I decide to interject an opinion. Not always popular, but I have my reasons from experience. I also put a question mark behind it. Barnett could be very good in this system if we raid the portal on the O side. 

I don’t care to argue with you just stating a fact. 

[Outlaw]

Thank you for breaking the news to us before it was posted online. You have some good insights at time, and sometimes your post are borderline delusional like being a highly explosive offense this year and winning 10 games next year.  You cheer for the bulls with optimism and false hopes that I can respect. What does playing d1 baseball, professional baseball, and being a scout have do with football exactly? Does it help you raid the portal or just make crazy predictions? Either way, keep the post coming because we need some entertainment because the offense is not providing it.

Edited November 20, 2019 by TheGreatOutlaw

[Corey lea]

17 minutes ago, TheGreatOutlaw said:

Thank you for breaking the news to us before it was posted online. You have some good insights at time, and sometimes your post are borderline delusional like being a highly explosive offense this year and winning 10 games next year.  You cheer for the bulls with optimism and false hopes that I can respect. What does playing d1 baseball, professional baseball, and being a scout have do with football exactly? Does it help you raid the portal or just make crazy predictions? Either way, keep the post coming because we need some entertainment because the offense is not providing it.

Well it gives you an insight or familiarity with the NCAA rules and definitely helps in evaluating talent. As delusional as most people seem when thinking that the cupboard was full here, they don't have an understanding on how bad the talent level across the board really was on Strong's arrival. Don't get me wrong, Flowers, McCants etc were good players, but mostly everything else was not very good and definitely didn't get any playing time to develop. Now we had a chance to get som e legit talent here via portal and the Strong recruits are growing up and playing. Next year will be entirely different. If we can keep Macon, get Barnett back and groom Rodemaker then you will be set for long term success. I don't know what the hell took for Hopple to play right tackle, but he did good. Atterbury and Norman are awful and not even serviceable. Strong needs to go find 2 more juco or portal lineman and 2 bruiser type running backs like Sands. McDoom's light is coming on. We have Williams from UT sitting out and we have a true freshmen coming in at wr that will be dynamic. There isn't alot to fix....just a few more good players. The backers are growing before your eyes. I would like to get 2 more db's from the portal or at least one. Roberts will hurt you more than he will help you. He is playing better but there was no where to go but up. I am not convinced he is better that Smoke Davis. 

[Bull94]

5 minutes ago, Corey lea said:

Well it gives you an insight or familiarity with the NCAA rules and definitely helps in evaluating talent. As delusional as most people seem when thinking that the cupboard was full here, they don't have an understanding on how bad the talent level across the board really was on Strong's arrival. Don't get me wrong, Flowers, McCants etc were good players, but mostly everything else was not very good and definitely didn't get any playing time to develop. Now we had a chance to get som e legit talent here via portal and the Strong recruits are growing up and playing. Next year will be entirely different. If we can keep Macon, get Barnett back and groom Rodemaker then you will be set for long term success. I don't know what the hell took for Hopple to play right tackle, but he did good. Atterbury and Norman are awful and not even serviceable. Strong needs to go find 2 more juco or portal lineman and 2 bruiser type running backs like Sands. McDoom's light is coming on. We have Williams from UT sitting out and we have a true freshmen coming in at wr that will be dynamic. There isn't alot to fix....just a few more good players. The backers are growing before your eyes. I would like to get 2 more db's from the portal or at least one. Roberts will hurt you more than he will help you. He is playing better but there was no where to go but up. I am not convinced he is better that Smoke Davis. 

just out of curiosity what was your prediction coming into this year? what type of talent did you claim we had on the roster?

[Outlaw]

45 minutes ago, Corey lea said:

Well it gives you an insight or familiarity with the NCAA rules and definitely helps in evaluating talent. As delusional as most people seem when thinking that the cupboard was full here, they don't have an understanding on how bad the talent level across the board really was on Strong's arrival. Don't get me wrong, Flowers, McCants etc were good players, but mostly everything else was not very good and definitely didn't get any playing time to develop. Now we had a chance to get som e legit talent here via portal and the Strong recruits are growing up and playing. Next year will be entirely different. If we can keep Macon, get Barnett back and groom Rodemaker then you will be set for long term success. I don't know what the hell took for Hopple to play right tackle, but he did good. Atterbury and Norman are awful and not even serviceable. Strong needs to go find 2 more juco or portal lineman and 2 bruiser type running backs like Sands. McDoom's light is coming on. We have Williams from UT sitting out and we have a true freshmen coming in at wr that will be dynamic. There isn't alot to fix....just a few more good players. The backers are growing before your eyes. I would like to get 2 more db's from the portal or at least one. Roberts will hurt you more than he will help you. He is playing better but there was no where to go but up. I am not convinced he is better that Smoke Davis. 

We are on opposite ends of Strong developing and bringing in talent . I still respect your enthusiasm and post.

[BrassBulls12]

I just happy at the progress that has been made in titling threads by CL. Based on the content I would have guessed the title to be "Macon to get 6th year of eligibility and will wear number 7". 

[Corey lea]

1 hour ago, TheGreatOutlaw said:

We are on opposite ends of Strong developing and bringing in talent . I still respect your enthusiasm and post.

Do you not see flashes in Joiner, Weaver, Cecil, Bellamy, Evan's and transfers Barnett, Macon, Studstill, Sails and Slade?  Watch out for Thaxton and William's next year. 

Miller was a good find too. Jennings and Harris. It's ok to disagree, but we are truly a few pieces away and a portal raid away from fixing the lack of talent and depth.

[Bull94]

1 minute ago, Corey lea said:

Do you not see flashes in Joiner, Weaver, Cecil, Bellamy, Evan's and transfers Barnett, Macon, Studstill, Sails and Slade?  Watch out for Thaxton and William's next year. 

Miller was a good find too. Jennings and Harris. It's ok to disagree, but we are truly a few pieces away and a portal raid away from fixing the lack of talent and depth.

again what were your thoughts heading into the season? did you predict big things for this team?

[Corey lea]

1 hour ago, Bull94 said:

again what were your thoughts heading into the season? did you predict big things for this team?

yes I did. However, when Barnett went down, we didn't stand a chance. 

I also think that CCS has been horrible with personnel. For example, I think Davis and Burnett should be FS or have more playing time. I can't express to you enough how much Roberts hurts the D. He is getting better, but still not serviceable. I think the staff is doing a better job of getting more players on the field now. Although 7 games too late. Green and Waller upfront...Mims is getting more play and is solid. I'm glad to see Grier and Boyles playing much better. 

On offense, Norman and Atterbury should be backups. Hopple played solid at RT and should have been there from day 1. Ultimately, Barnett going down and McCloud's inability to be serviceable most of the time really hurt. As I see it, we need a kicker, 2 OL, 2 rbs for depth, 2 dbs and maybe one receiver or TE. Mathis has played well.   It will come together!

[Bull94]

52 minutes ago, Corey lea said:

yes I did. However, when Barnett went down, we didn't stand a chance. 

I also think that CCS has been horrible with personnel. For example, I think Davis and Burnett should be FS or have more playing time. I can't express to you enough how much Roberts hurts the D. He is getting better, but still not serviceable. I think the staff is doing a better job of getting more players on the field now. Although 7 games too late. Green and Waller upfront...Mims is getting more play and is solid. I'm glad to see Grier and Boyles playing much better. 

On offense, Norman and Atterbury should be backups. Hopple played solid at RT and should have been there from day 1. Ultimately, Barnett going down and McCloud's inability to be serviceable most of the time really hurt. As I see it, we need a kicker, 2 OL, 2 rbs for depth, 2 dbs and maybe one receiver or TE. Mathis has played well.   It will come together!

so in your expert opinion(you were a baseball player after all) before the season started you didn't see any of the issues that you now continually rant about?

Wouldn't most of them have been obvious with our collapse last year? BTW the answer isn't always that the backups are the solution

Our o-line wasn't exactly stellar. They were ranked #114 last year for sacks given up.

Our passer rating as a team last year ranked #92. this year #96. Jordan McCloud is the 75th rated passer this year

I get the QB but You speak in certainties like you know what you are talking about yet you weren't able to recognize any of these deficiencies before the season? suddenly we need to raid the portal for how many new starters?

We now average less than 20 points per game. our defense seems to have gotten better (oh wait we haven't played 2 top 10 offenses yet) yet we will likely still finish in the bottom half of all defenses in the country.

You are like cali bull and gatorbull. you blow sunshine and act as if you know what's going on but in reality you don't have a clue.

Edited November 20, 2019 by Bull94