NewEnglandBull Posted November 10, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Author Share Posted November 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, puc86 said: So the guaranteed magic only lasts two years? Ughh...you have totally lost me. He was a head coach that was hired by another university. Yes, these coaches get fired all the time. This has nothing to do with being an OC and getting fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friscobull Posted November 10, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 7 Content Count: 10,846 Reputation: 3,964 Days Won: 67 Joined: 05/23/2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 minute ago, NewEnglandBull said: Ughh...you have totally lost me. He was a head coach that was hired by another university. Yes, these coaches get fired all the time. This has nothing to do with being an OC and getting fired. Hire no coordinators ever, promote them straight to head coach from grad assistant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted November 10, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Author Share Posted November 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, Friscobull said: Hire no coordinators ever, promote them straight to head coach from grad assistant Puc will get them from high school programs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted November 10, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted November 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, NewEnglandBull said: Ughh...you have totally lost me. He was a head coach that was hired by another university. Yes, these coaches get fired all the time. This has nothing to do with being an OC and getting fired. Coaches get fired all of the time. I would say he is most famous for being an OC coach at Clemson and then blowing it at Arkansas. There is no magic pool that you should always pull from or else everyone would be doing that rout. Even that doughy kid from UCF is starting to not look like a home run pick people were clamoring for as an example of how if you get a young offensive coordinator you are guaranteed success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted November 10, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Author Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 minute ago, puc86 said: Coaches get fired all of the time. I would say he is most famous for being an OC coach at Clemson and then blowing it at Arkansas. There is no magic pool that you should always pull from or else everyone would be doing that rout. Even that doughy kid from UCF is starting to not look like a home run pick people were clamoring for as an example of how if you get a young offensive coordinator you are guaranteed success. That statement applies to every person at every position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted November 10, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted November 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, Friscobull said: Hire no coordinators ever, promote them straight to head coach from grad assistant I have no issue with hiring coordinators either offensive or defensive or hiring other head coaches or even hiring a head coach that may not currently be gainfully employed, I also recognize that being dogmatic about one type or thinking it’s a guaranteed path to success is idealistic and silly at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted November 10, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Just now, NewEnglandBull said: That statement applies to every person at every position Except that for 6 months people on here have been saying all you have to do is hire a young successful oc and you are guaranteed head coaching success 4 minutes ago, NewEnglandBull said: Puc will get them from high school programs Obviously not true since I think even hiring coaches from DII is beneath us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted November 10, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Author Share Posted November 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, puc86 said: Except that for 6 months people on here have been saying all you have to do is hire a young successful oc and you are guaranteed head coaching success Obviously not true since I think even hiring coaches from DII is beneath us I don’t think anyone on here has said it’s a “guarantee” to success. Remember this is USF football there are no guarantees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted November 10, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 minute ago, NewEnglandBull said: USF football there are no guarantees. Some feel like they are emerging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted November 10, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Author Share Posted November 10, 2019 Just now, puc86 said: Some feel like they are emerging Well I most certainly want an OC versus a retread coach but I know it’s not a guarantee to success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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