BobbyBpchiefs Posted October 26, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 5 Content Count: 52 Reputation: 28 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/04/2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 20 minutes ago, michibull said: I never said that, thanks. But to save my breath and say that every school controls their own schedule. If you a G5 and you want to make the playoff, schedule all of your non conference games against P5 schools. Stop asking for hand outs and take control of your own life. If we played Clemson, Alabama, OSU and we win those games, they couldn't keep us out of the CFP. Everyone has a chance, schedule big games and win them and your in. Period!! You must not know how scheduling works if you think a G5 team can just schedule Clemson, Bama, and OSU just like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapelbull Posted October 26, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 3 Content Count: 7,683 Reputation: 1,491 Days Won: 17 Joined: 08/27/2017 Share Posted October 26, 2018 (edited) 47 minutes ago, michibull said: The NCAA is a for profit entity, which makes it a business, which makes them a company. The NCAA is a nonprofit organization. The NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL are for profit and they figured out a playoff system that allows everyone of their teams a shot at winning a championship. Regular season didn't mean much last year because the 3rd place team in the sec got in Edited October 26, 2018 by chapelbull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapelbull Posted October 26, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 3 Content Count: 7,683 Reputation: 1,491 Days Won: 17 Joined: 08/27/2017 Share Posted October 26, 2018 22 minutes ago, Bobby said: You must not know how scheduling works if you think a G5 team can just schedule Clemson, Bama, and OSU just like that. Oh you didn't know that USF can schedule those guys any time they want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebullsfan Posted October 26, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 209 Content Count: 2,785 Reputation: 675 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/12/2013 Share Posted October 26, 2018 I sleep in and don't even pay attention to these guys. No reason too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beastiebull Posted October 26, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 135 Content Count: 3,809 Reputation: 82 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/26/2001 Share Posted October 26, 2018 (edited) 16 hours ago, michibull said: But my question is, why is it the problem? Just because our school or conference doesn't have a seat at the CFP dinner table, doesn't mean we deserve one. ^^^Yes you did say exactly that, thanks. Then again you also said that the NCAA is a for profit organization. You also seem to think that programs like USF can just pick and choose whoever we want to schedule. As if P5 schools are just waiting for USF's call to schedule them. As if, because of the split between G5 and P5, playing programs like USF benefits them any where close to the degree that it potentially harms them. You appear to be as incapable of being logical and fair-minded as the very system you are trying to defend so I see no point in continuing the conversation. There is obviously no persuading you despite logic and facts. Maybe you've been brainwashed like many of the P5 fans. Its just strange to hear this coming from a USF fan who's program is being damaged and marginalized at the hands of people who could care less whether or not your favorite team even existed. . Edited October 26, 2018 by beastiebull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELdaBull Posted October 26, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 86 Content Count: 17,061 Reputation: 1,429 Days Won: 19 Joined: 09/15/2005 Share Posted October 26, 2018 These last few pages have been entertaining 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michibull Posted October 26, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 19 Content Count: 960 Reputation: 652 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/29/2012 Share Posted October 26, 2018 3 hours ago, beastiebull said: ^^^Yes you did say exactly that, thanks. Then again you also said that the NCAA is a for profit organization. You also seem to think that programs like USF can just pick and choose whoever we want to schedule. As if P5 schools are just waiting for USF's call to schedule them. As if, because of the split between G5 and P5, playing programs like USF benefits them any where close to the degree that it potentially harms them. You appear to be as incapable of being logical and fair-minded as the very system you are trying to defend so I see no point in continuing the conversation. There is obviously no persuading you despite logic and facts. Maybe you've been brainwashed like many of the P5 fans. Its just strange to hear this coming from a USF fan who's program is being damaged and marginalized at the hands of people who could care less whether or not your favorite team even existed. . Ok, my last post on this: - the purpose of the CFP is to ensure that the best TWO teams are in the 4 team CFP; which it does that. - the NCAA tries to make as much money as possible, therefore it has a bias to big money programs getting into the two other spots. - If a G5 school wants to get in, it has to leave no doubt to the CFP committee and the public media. They can do it by scheduling the toughest they CAN get. - Unlike basketball, upsets and cinderellas are much more rare, so the CFP will side with the traditional powers when there is doubt. Therefore G5's have to send a clear message with beating multiple P5 teams. And that's the last I'm saying about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapelbull Posted October 26, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 3 Content Count: 7,683 Reputation: 1,491 Days Won: 17 Joined: 08/27/2017 Share Posted October 26, 2018 9 minutes ago, michibull said: Ok, my last post on this: - the purpose of the CFP is to ensure that the best TWO teams are in the 4 team CFP; which it does that. Matter of opinion - the NCAA tries to make as much money as possible, therefore it has a bias to big money programs getting into the two other spots. NCAA doesn't run the playoff. P5 conferences are making a killing. NCAA President offered an 8 team playoff plan in 2016 that would include all P5 conference champions - If a G5 school wants to get in, it has to leave no doubt to the CFP committee and the public media. They can do it by scheduling the toughest they CAN get. Impossible and many P5 teams have virtually no chance either (see Colorado being eliminated by ESPN's system while still undefeated). - Unlike basketball, upsets and cinderellas are much more rare, so the CFP will side with the traditional powers when there is doubt. Therefore G5's have to send a clear message with beating multiple P5 teams. Speculative. There are many upsets in college football And that's the last I'm saying about this. We hope, probably a few posts too late. Yeah, it doesn't look any better when you place it in this format in one post. An 8 team playoff is very doable just not wanted by the powers that be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Style Posted October 27, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 109 Content Count: 21,137 Reputation: 4,642 Days Won: 39 Joined: 09/14/2007 Share Posted October 27, 2018 19 hours ago, chapelbull said: - If a G5 school wants to get in, it has to leave no doubt to the CFP committee and the public media. They can do it by scheduling the toughest they CAN get. Impossible and many P5 teams have virtually no chance either (see Colorado being eliminated by ESPN's system while still undefeated). This is a great point. You can see this when it happens with the B12 whenever Texas or Oklahoma are not in position. The entire thing is hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Posted October 29, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 56 Content Count: 4,432 Reputation: 711 Days Won: 19 Joined: 03/16/2013 Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) On 10/25/2018 at 1:30 PM, chapelbull said: So what? If the G5 team deserves to be there, then they have to beat whoever is put in front of them. They just deserve a shot Under the current system; a G5 team will NEVER make the playoffs... unless, the stars align and they: They go undefeated in one season; THEN they happened to have scheduled the right P5 teams in the next season; THEN they will need to undefeated again; AND the winnings will need to be convincing. ALSO, the top 4 P5 teams must lose at least 1 game to a non-top 10 team. If all these happen, then the G5 team can make the playoffs. Edited October 29, 2018 by Bear 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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