Mike Stuben Posted June 13, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 74 Content Count: 2,465 Reputation: 1,137 Days Won: 19 Joined: 04/08/2012 Share Posted June 13, 2018 2 hours ago, raptorcj said: I wouldn't crap on it (fine for a student shirt), but I do think maybe the winning entry should go through the "bay made" media/graphics artists before it hits the street. Even if that would add another 3-5 bucks to the product, I think the masses would be more likely to buy & wear them to games. The pocket thing is an odd convention... It is not meant for the masses. It is sort of like FUBU clothing concept, For Students By Students. There are plenty of shirts meant for the masses available for sale to the masses. It is ok for people to not like the design, taste is subjective. I have no problem with that. Let me add a fact to the equation, USF/Athletics gives up the royalty on these shirts. Shirts meant for resale are supposed to have a hologram from CLC where a royalty is paid to the school. USF/Athletics is kind enough to give up this revenue to help keep the cost of the shirt low to be affordable to students. So, I want to stress, while no one stops non-students from buying them, they are meant to be for students. Student Government exists to serve the student body, not fans or alumni. Athletics is giving up the royalty to provide a benefit to students, when fans buy shirts, the shirts should be licensed. The bookstore doesn't make a profit on these shirts, they just get foot traffic. Once again, if you are not a student, feel free to buy one. But, the purpose of the shirts is meant for something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptorcj Posted June 13, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 18 Content Count: 8,878 Reputation: 1,266 Days Won: 28 Joined: 07/12/2013 Share Posted June 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, Mike Stuben said: It is not meant for the masses. It is sort of like FUBU clothing concept, For Students By Students. There are plenty of shirts meant for the masses available for sale to the masses. It is ok for people to not like the design, taste is subjective. I have no problem with that. Let me add a fact to the equation, USF/Athletics gives up the royalty on these shirts. Shirts meant for resale are supposed to have a hologram from CLC where a royalty is paid to the school. USF/Athletics is kind enough to give up this revenue to help keep the cost of the shirt low to be affordable to students. So, I want to stress, while no one stops non-students from buying them, they are meant to be for students. Student Government exists to serve the student body, not fans or alumni. Athletics is giving up the royalty to provide a benefit to students, when fans buy shirts, the shirts should be licensed. The bookstore doesn't make a profit on these shirts, they just get foot traffic. Once again, if you are not a student, feel free to buy one. But, the purpose of the shirts is meant for something else. Nope, I get it and I get your connection to it--I like the process and USF waiving royalties, cool. It's not personal, it just reminds me of my elementary school shirts and I don't like the thought of USF being poked for it when our students deck out in them. It could be better, that is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Stuben Posted June 13, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 74 Content Count: 2,465 Reputation: 1,137 Days Won: 19 Joined: 04/08/2012 Share Posted June 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, raptorcj said: Nope, I get it and I get your connection to it--I like the process and USF waiving royalties, cool. It's not personal, it just reminds me of my elementary school shirts and I don't like the thought of USF being poked for it when our students deck out in them. It could be better, that is all. No hard feelings, like I said, like/dislike of the shirt is always subjective. I just didn't want the premise to be that the shirts had to be made more "professional" so that they would appeal to more people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted June 13, 2018 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,636 Reputation: 10,874 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted June 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, raptorcj said: I don't like the thought of USF being poked for it when our students deck out in them. It could be better, that is all. Honestly though, if our students like them enough to buy them and wear them to games, **** what anybody else thinks. I think sometimes we worry too much about what others think when it comes to anything USF Athletics ........ unless, of course, it pertains to pertinent rankings. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted June 13, 2018 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,043 Reputation: 10,833 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted June 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Triple B said: Honestly though, if our students like them enough to buy them and wear them to games, **** what anybody else thinks. My goodness, you’re cranky. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrassBulls12 Posted June 13, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 399 Content Count: 4,679 Reputation: 517 Days Won: 4 Joined: 02/03/2017 Share Posted June 13, 2018 5 hours ago, raptorcj said: The pocket thing is an odd convention... That’s really the only thing that’s throwing me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted June 13, 2018 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,636 Reputation: 10,874 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted June 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Brad said: My goodness, you’re cranky. You're just noticing ....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted June 13, 2018 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,636 Reputation: 10,874 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted June 13, 2018 7 hours ago, raptorcj said: The pocket thing is an odd convention... 1 hour ago, BrassBulls12 said: That’s really the only thing that’s throwing me off. For BDYZR/Mike, just for my own clarification, the "pocket thing" is just pocket sized where a pocket would usually go and not the full front of the shirt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Stuben Posted June 14, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 74 Content Count: 2,465 Reputation: 1,137 Days Won: 19 Joined: 04/08/2012 Share Posted June 14, 2018 13 hours ago, Triple B said: For BDYZR/Mike, just for my own clarification, the "pocket thing" is just pocket sized where a pocket would usually go and not the full front of the shirt? Yeah, it is a meant to be style, if you can imagine an old school pocket T shirt, it is just an outline of where the pocket would be. If you google "faux pocket shirt" and click on images, you can see lots of examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrassBulls12 Posted June 14, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 399 Content Count: 4,679 Reputation: 517 Days Won: 4 Joined: 02/03/2017 Share Posted June 14, 2018 17 hours ago, Mike Stuben said: I just didn't want the premise to be that the shirts had to be made more "professional" so that they would appeal to more people. When I was in school, it was a five dollar shirt with your ID so I don't think anyone can expect much from it. i just can't get past the little half bull poking out of the fake pocket. 2009 was my favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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