NewEnglandBull Posted December 4, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Mama_Bull said: In this conference, without winning even our division, we should be content to have played P5 teams in bowl games the past two years. That's just the way it is right now, until we can renegotiate a better TV deal and better bowl games. The main thing Aresco wants is to have a guaranteed big bowl game for our champion, if no AAC teams earns the NYD bowl. Things will eventually get better in the conference, but we just need to be more patient. Mama do you know exactly when the bowls are renegotiated? My understanding is that it is before the tv contracts are renegotiated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeItOrLeavitt Posted December 4, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 45 Content Count: 1,235 Reputation: 258 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/04/2003 Share Posted December 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, Mama_Bull said: What could Harlan do? It was beyond HIS control: "Military Bowl, which chose Navy." Not putting the Blame squarely on Harlan's shoulders. I actually think Aresco should have stepped up and told the Military bowl that we belong there. With added pressure from Harlan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama_Bull Posted December 5, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,207 Content Count: 18,470 Reputation: 899 Days Won: 44 Joined: 10/14/2003 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, TakeItOrLeavitt said: Not putting the Blame squarely on Harlan's shoulders. I actually think Aresco should have stepped up and told the Military bowl that we belong there. With added pressure from Harlan. We do not know what Aresco did or did not do with respect to that. I don't expect our AD to put the blame on Aresco. I really can't blame the "Military" Bowl from choosing Navy. They certainly would draw better with them than with USF. That has to also be taken into consideration when selecting a team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMW Posted December 5, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 39 Content Count: 2,127 Reputation: 924 Days Won: 6 Joined: 09/14/2007 Share Posted December 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, Mama_Bull said: We do not know what Aresco did or did not do with respect to that. I don't expect our AD to put the blame on Aresco. I really can't blame the "Military" Bowl from choosing Navy. They certainly would draw better with them than with USF. That has to also be taken into consideration when selecting a team. We don't travel well and these bowls have this crazy idea about making money. This is the same thinking when it comes to complaining we are not in a P5. Our attendance stinks. We are our own worst enemy. Blaming Aresco and Harlan is ********. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_Bullnard_Shaw Posted December 5, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 55 Content Count: 6,740 Reputation: 1,743 Days Won: 17 Joined: 11/04/2012 Share Posted December 5, 2017 19 minutes ago, NewEnglandBull said: Those are decent options...I hope I don’t hear the words Birmingham Bowl and USF together for at least five years. How about "Back to back Birmingham Bowl winners USF Bulls"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeB Posted December 5, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 963 Content Count: 9,765 Reputation: 596 Days Won: 9 Joined: 08/05/2005 Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 minute ago, MMW said: We don't travel well and these bowls have this crazy idea about making money. This is the same thinking when it comes to complaining we are not in a P5. Our attendance stinks. We are our own worst enemy. Blaming Aresco and Harlan is ********. And now we can add to our reputation, by our fans not wanting to travel to Birmingham. Its a vicous circle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_Bullnard_Shaw Posted December 5, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 55 Content Count: 6,740 Reputation: 1,743 Days Won: 17 Joined: 11/04/2012 Share Posted December 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, MMW said: We don't travel well and these bowls have this crazy idea about making money. This is the same thinking when it comes to complaining we are not in a P5. Our attendance stinks. We are our own worst enemy. Blaming Aresco and Harlan is ********. For a G5 team our attendance is consistently near the top of that group. We all know attendance and traveling are the catch-22 the P5 has the G5 caught in. We aren't going to get good attendance until we're in the P5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullcocky101 Posted December 5, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 89 Content Count: 1,803 Reputation: 187 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/09/2007 Share Posted December 5, 2017 We can add a third Birmingham bowl trophy to our case! It will be a focal piece to show recruits! Over here is our Birmingham bowl trophy...and over here is our Birmingham bowl trophy...and did we mention that we won the Birmingham bowl? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roaming Bull Posted December 5, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 64 Content Count: 9,756 Reputation: 2,174 Days Won: 25 Joined: 09/20/2014 Share Posted December 5, 2017 58 minutes ago, Mama_Bull said: What could Harlan do? It was beyond HIS control: "Military Bowl, which chose Navy." He failed to sway their decision. ADs need to be persuasive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usf97 Posted December 5, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 179 Content Count: 3,649 Reputation: 461 Days Won: 4 Joined: 02/01/2005 Share Posted December 5, 2017 54 minutes ago, NewEnglandBull said: Those are decent options...I hope I don’t hear the words Birmingham Bowl and USF together for at least five years. Well keep in mind, it could always be worse. Pitt went to the Birmingham Bowl THREE straight years. 2011 beat Kentucky 2012 lost to SMU 2013 lost to Ole Miss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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