Apis Bull Posted November 17, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,586 Content Count: 23,185 Reputation: 2,332 Days Won: 65 Joined: 09/05/2002 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Here's something I noticed early on but have been focusing on it the last few games, when Q steps into his throws, his passes are really good. The problem is, that way too often, he doesn't step into his throws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fold FB Invest in BB Posted November 17, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 76 Content Count: 6,712 Reputation: 1,131 Days Won: 17 Joined: 09/07/2009 Share Posted November 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Apis Bull said: Here's something I noticed early on but have been focusing on it the last few games, when Q steps into his throws, his passes are really good. The problem is, that way too often, he doesn't step into his throws. If Gilbert called plays that did not require him to step into his throws, we'd be a good team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Bull Posted November 17, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 148 Content Count: 5,900 Reputation: 628 Days Won: 5 Joined: 09/02/2007 Share Posted November 17, 2017 I agree, his accuracy has to be better next week... I do think that it looks worse than it is though. We have a lot of drops, I know, drops happen, but, it seems to happen to us a lot. There were also 2 plays in a row last night where Q's passes looked AWFUL, but, I think the blame was actually on the WR. One was a second down and McCants was running some sort of in route at the hash. Q threw and the ball landed behind McCants, looked like Q missed him badly. What I think I saw was that there was a safety in the spot where McCants would have been in Q hit him in stride. Most offenses have some "option" to the route where if the WR and QB read that the defense is in a zone, the WR settles down into the zone rather than running their route into a defender. I'll never know if our offense is that sophisticated, or, if Q just missed badly, but, to me, it looked like Q expected Tyree to settle down into an area of the field that was open and pick up the first. On 3rd down, I swear it was nearly the same play and the announcers even indicated that Q was telling the WR that they ran the wrong route. My point is, for Gilbert to come out and kind of single out MVS as finally learning the offense, I wonder how many of Q's horrible throws are really that far off vs a receiver not reacting to the defense the way they should. I said in the in-game thread, but, one of the biggest differences between this year and last is our WR play... Drops, blocking, routes, coming back to Q when he's scrambling. All of it seems pretty bad. Some could be WR coach, could be that Q is so inaccurate that they don't know how to react, could be that they have seen Q make so many great plays that they are complacent, they are expecting him to make something happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullstampede9922 Posted November 17, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 12 Content Count: 1,486 Reputation: 543 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/24/2013 Share Posted November 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, Orlando Bull said: I agree, his accuracy has to be better next week... I do think that it looks worse than it is though. We have a lot of drops, I know, drops happen, but, it seems to happen to us a lot. There were also 2 plays in a row last night where Q's passes looked AWFUL, but, I think the blame was actually on the WR. One was a second down and McCants was running some sort of in route at the hash. Q threw and the ball landed behind McCants, looked like Q missed him badly. What I think I saw was that there was a safety in the spot where McCants would have been in Q hit him in stride. Most offenses have some "option" to the route where if the WR and QB read that the defense is in a zone, the WR settles down into the zone rather than running their route into a defender. I'll never know if our offense is that sophisticated, or, if Q just missed badly, but, to me, it looked like Q expected Tyree to settle down into an area of the field that was open and pick up the first. On 3rd down, I swear it was nearly the same play and the announcers even indicated that Q was telling the WR that they ran the wrong route. My point is, for Gilbert to come out and kind of single out MVS as finally learning the offense, I wonder how many of Q's horrible throws are really that far off vs a receiver not reacting to the defense the way they should. I said in the in-game thread, but, one of the biggest differences between this year and last is our WR play... Drops, blocking, routes, coming back to Q when he's scrambling. All of it seems pretty bad. Some could be WR coach, could be that Q is so inaccurate that they don't know how to react, could be that they have seen Q make so many great plays that they are complacent, they are expecting him to make something happen. Stop making sense. It's all about coach-hate and running these guys out of town. They obviously don't want to be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulls Are We Posted November 17, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 217 Content Count: 2,495 Reputation: 192 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/23/2003 Share Posted November 17, 2017 11/28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who'sYourData? Posted November 17, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 410 Content Count: 19,525 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 24 Joined: 09/01/2006 Share Posted November 17, 2017 6 hours ago, Orlando Bull said: I agree, his accuracy has to be better next week... I do think that it looks worse than it is though. We have a lot of drops, I know, drops happen, but, it seems to happen to us a lot. There were also 2 plays in a row last night where Q's passes looked AWFUL, but, I think the blame was actually on the WR. One was a second down and McCants was running some sort of in route at the hash. Q threw and the ball landed behind McCants, looked like Q missed him badly. What I think I saw was that there was a safety in the spot where McCants would have been in Q hit him in stride. Most offenses have some "option" to the route where if the WR and QB read that the defense is in a zone, the WR settles down into the zone rather than running their route into a defender. I'll never know if our offense is that sophisticated, or, if Q just missed badly, but, to me, it looked like Q expected Tyree to settle down into an area of the field that was open and pick up the first. On 3rd down, I swear it was nearly the same play and the announcers even indicated that Q was telling the WR that they ran the wrong route. My point is, for Gilbert to come out and kind of single out MVS as finally learning the offense, I wonder how many of Q's horrible throws are really that far off vs a receiver not reacting to the defense the way they should. I said in the in-game thread, but, one of the biggest differences between this year and last is our WR play... Drops, blocking, routes, coming back to Q when he's scrambling. All of it seems pretty bad. Some could be WR coach, could be that Q is so inaccurate that they don't know how to react, could be that they have seen Q make so many great plays that they are complacent, they are expecting him to make something happen. We have watched four years of Q's throws being inaccurate. So either no one has recruited WRs that can run a route in four years, or at least some of it is due to the fact that Q can't throw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who'sYourData? Posted November 17, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 410 Content Count: 19,525 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 24 Joined: 09/01/2006 Share Posted November 17, 2017 6 hours ago, Apis Bull said: Here's something I noticed early on but have been focusing on it the last few games, when Q steps into his throws, his passes are really good. The problem is, that way too often, he doesn't step into his throws. Well played, sir. (I need a clap emoji) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaUSFBull Posted November 17, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 263 Content Count: 24,750 Reputation: 3,107 Days Won: 87 Joined: 12/15/2009 Share Posted November 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, Who'sYourData? said: (I need a clap emoji) We have had one, at least as long as I've been coming to this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjadams Posted November 17, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 25 Content Count: 1,698 Reputation: 232 Days Won: 2 Joined: 08/27/2008 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Did it look like last night when he felt pressure he stepped into the pressure instead of scrambling outside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullrush33 Posted November 17, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 85 Content Count: 3,801 Reputation: 788 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/20/2008 Share Posted November 17, 2017 I hope he was just having an emotional evening and he will be fine next week. See Temple game where is emotions were high and did not perform well. Seems simliar to last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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