snarling Bull Posted November 25, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 35 Content Count: 6,574 Reputation: 237 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/19/2006 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Somebody will start, anybody could take over sometime but nobody cares anyhow! lol sad but true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_Bullnard_Shaw Posted November 25, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 55 Content Count: 6,740 Reputation: 1,743 Days Won: 17 Joined: 11/04/2012 Share Posted November 25, 2014 "best chance to win", but if he loses his mind again, one of the other guys will give the best chance...and so on. Rotate em all and BEAT UCiF! Eventually he'll get so sly he will rotate the quarterbacks during the plays. 3 QBs will go on and off in the middle of a play. It will be glorious and mystifying to the other team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullsfan1983 Posted November 25, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 4 Content Count: 839 Reputation: 125 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/17/2013 Share Posted November 25, 2014 i say go wildcat with white and bench split out wide. imagine the confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted November 25, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,896 Content Count: 66,077 Reputation: 2,431 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted November 25, 2014 another loss white may be the best of bad group bench didnt play as much so it is hard to evaluate flowers doesnt even seem like a qb too me white will never make usf competitive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltLiquorBull Posted November 25, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 96 Content Count: 4,074 Reputation: 1,383 Days Won: 14 Joined: 01/09/2006 Share Posted November 25, 2014 A couple of things. I really think White could win this game if: Willie T doesn't pull him after a scoring drive so Flowers can have a 3 and out. The defense shows up and decides to tackle. No team is going to win if the opponent will score on virtually every possession. We don't have drive killing chop blocks We don't run up the middle on every 1st and 2nd down to ensure 3rd and 8 so we can throw a 5 yard pass on 3rd down (or run it up the gut again). Wille T does not wait until 10 sec on the play clock to send in a play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullsfan1983 Posted November 25, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 4 Content Count: 839 Reputation: 125 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/17/2013 Share Posted November 25, 2014 We will likely need short fields from turnovers and maybe a defensive score and long Mack TD run for White to win this one. UCF has an experienced secondary and is top 5 in the country in total defense and passing defense. Opposing QBs have the lowest passer rating in all of college football against them. The key is going to be for the defense to step up and have a game similar to last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptorcj Posted November 25, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 18 Content Count: 8,878 Reputation: 1,266 Days Won: 28 Joined: 07/12/2013 Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) "best chance to win", but if he loses his mind again, one of the other guys will give the best chance...and so on. Rotate em all and BEAT UCiF! Eventually he'll get so sly he will rotate the quarterbacks during the plays. 3 QBs will go on and off in the middle of a play. It will be glorious and mystifying to the other team. I think pretty much everyone in the stands and probably on the field would be mystified. Still, whatever it takes... /sar Edited November 25, 2014 by raptorcj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsOnThaRize8 Posted November 26, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 53 Content Count: 1,894 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/14/2007 Share Posted November 26, 2014 If you want my honest opinion he is trying to limit flowers throwing the ball but watch his high school tape. The guy has no problem throwing the ball. I just think he wants him to get some reps get used to being out there and add a mobile factor to this year if it would work but next year I think Flowers starts and I think he will be able to make the throws. Fact is...We need an Aaron Murray to stay home and make this offense what it is intended to be. Run/Playaction where you can hit check downs or you add the mobile threat to it because Mike White is so afraid to turn the ball over he just runs away and throws it away now. I'd like to see flowers with a wide open 100% ready and see what he brings. He cant just come in to run. 2-3 Game changing plays missed in memphis game the announcers recalled and replayed which were wide open big plays/first downs white never even gave it a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullsfan1983 Posted November 26, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 4 Content Count: 839 Reputation: 125 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/17/2013 Share Posted November 26, 2014 (edited) If you want my honest opinion he is trying to limit flowers throwing the ball but watch his high school tape. The guy has no problem throwing the ball. I just think he wants him to get some reps get used to being out there and add a mobile factor to this year if it would work but next year I think Flowers starts and I think he will be able to make the throws. Fact is...We need an Aaron Murray to stay home and make this offense what it is intended to be. Run/Playaction where you can hit check downs or you add the mobile threat to it because Mike White is so afraid to turn the ball over he just runs away and throws it away now. I'd like to see flowers with a wide open 100% ready and see what he brings. He cant just come in to run. 2-3 Game changing plays missed in memphis game the announcers recalled and replayed which were wide open big plays/first downs white never even gave it a thought. I watched his high school video and all but a throw or 2 had no zip on the ball similar to what we have seen in limited time this year. You might be right, but for whatever reason (coaching, teammates, poor play) Flowers couldn't score against SMU. Flowers played for 50+ minutes against SMU and scored 0 points. This against by far the worst defense in FBS. A team that has given up more than 28 points through 3 quarters in every other game they have played this year and that UCF's poor offense scored 34 in the first half against. I get the feeling that Flowers was promised time at QB and that is why he came to USF, but long term I don't think he is the answer at QB at all. Edited November 26, 2014 by bullsfan1983 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gismo Posted November 27, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 417 Content Count: 9,685 Reputation: 1,236 Days Won: 8 Joined: 09/24/2009 Share Posted November 27, 2014 If you want my honest opinion he is trying to limit flowers throwing the ball but watch his high school tape. The guy has no problem throwing the ball. I just think he wants him to get some reps get used to being out there and add a mobile factor to this year if it would work but next year I think Flowers starts and I think he will be able to make the throws. Fact is...We need an Aaron Murray to stay home and make this offense what it is intended to be. Run/Playaction where you can hit check downs or you add the mobile threat to it because Mike White is so afraid to turn the ball over he just runs away and throws it away now. I'd like to see flowers with a wide open 100% ready and see what he brings. He cant just come in to run. 2-3 Game changing plays missed in memphis game the announcers recalled and replayed which were wide open big plays/first downs white never even gave it a thought. I watched his high school video and all but a throw or 2 had no zip on the ball similar to what we have seen in limited time this year. You might be right, but for whatever reason (coaching, teammates, poor play) Flowers couldn't score against SMU. Flowers played for 50+ minutes against SMU and scored 0 points. This against by far the worst defense in FBS. A team that has given up more than 28 points through 3 quarters in every other game they have played this year and that UCF's poor offense scored 34 in the first half against. I get the feeling that Flowers was promised time at QB and that is why he came to USF, but long term I don't think he is the answer at QB at all. If flowers knows what is good for him, he will change positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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