MaltLiquorBull Posted October 12, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 96 Content Count: 4,078 Reputation: 1,389 Days Won: 14 Joined: 01/09/2006 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Too bad we don't play UConn again this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who'sYourData? Posted October 12, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 410 Content Count: 19,525 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 24 Joined: 09/01/2006 Share Posted October 12, 2014 The real shame of it is that our defense played an excellent game. They deserve better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feardabull Posted October 12, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 138 Content Count: 3,594 Reputation: 202 Days Won: 3 Joined: 10/08/2007 Share Posted October 12, 2014 ECU overcame their penalties. We didnt. I mean, come on. 1st and 30 and they got it all in two plays. Thor gets called for holding on the 3rd and 1 that we converted and it suddenly fell apart. I also feel we abandoned the run too soon. I think it might be time for more tice and dj tho. Mack is slowing down a little i think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallyBull Posted October 13, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 23 Content Count: 3,685 Reputation: 1,186 Days Won: 14 Joined: 01/19/2011 Share Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) This power offense will not work here. Hell, it barely works at Stanford. College football has changed. Most programs are moving away from this offense and moving towards a more up tempo spread attack. We, on the other hand, stick with the 3 yards and a cloud of dust and put up 2 TDs a game.Alabama uses a power, pro-style offense... so does Michigan State... just two off the top of my head. This style of offense will work fine once we get talented players. Skip Holtz ran a spread offense... how did that work out?Those teams can recruit and land the players we can only dream about.Exactly. It's not about the scheme, it's about the players... in two years when Taggart has a team full of his recruits, people won't be complaining about a power offense.So far that scheme has given us the 124/124 ranking in total offense last year, and 122/124 this year according to ESPN. http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/team/_/stat/total We have an issue with talent, but not THAT big of an issue... I've never understood why a new coach has to effectively destroy a team to "rebuild it from the ground up." I understand rebuilding with your own recruits, but it doesn't seem like most teams with new coaches take a total nosedive in pretty much every offensive category. If that's CWT's approach, fine. But he'd better get this ship turned around by next year. I can't imagine Harlan hangs on to a coach he didn't pick for a fourth year if he can't crack the top 120 offenses while "rebuilding." Edited October 13, 2014 by TallyBull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who'sYourData? Posted October 13, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 410 Content Count: 19,525 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 24 Joined: 09/01/2006 Share Posted October 13, 2014 This power offense will not work here. Hell, it barely works at Stanford. College football has changed. Most programs are moving away from this offense and moving towards a more up tempo spread attack. We, on the other hand, stick with the 3 yards and a cloud of dust and put up 2 TDs a game. Alabama uses a power, pro-style offense... so does Michigan State... just two off the top of my head. This style of offense will work fine once we get talented players. Skip Holtz ran a spread offense... how did that work out? Those teams can recruit and land the players we can only dream about. Exactly. It's not about the scheme, it's about the players... in two years when Taggart has a team full of his recruits, people won't be complaining about a power offense. So far that scheme has given us the 124/124 ranking in total offense last year, and 122/124 this year according to ESPN.http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/team/_/stat/total We have an issue with talent, but not THAT big of an issue... I've never understood why a new coach has to effectively destroy a team to "rebuild it from the ground up." I understand rebuilding with your own recruits, but it doesn't seem like most teams with new coaches take a total nosedive in pretty much every offensive category. If that's CWT's approach, fine. But he'd better get this ship turned around by next year. I can't imagine Harlan hangs on to a coach he didn't pick for a fourth year if he can't crack the top 120 offenses while "rebuilding." You are about to be savagely attacked by the Pro-Taggart crowd. Better put on the body armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaUSFBull Posted October 13, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 263 Content Count: 24,750 Reputation: 3,107 Days Won: 87 Joined: 12/15/2009 Share Posted October 13, 2014 This power offense will not work here. Hell, it barely works at Stanford. College football has changed. Most programs are moving away from this offense and moving towards a more up tempo spread attack. We, on the other hand, stick with the 3 yards and a cloud of dust and put up 2 TDs a game. Alabama uses a power, pro-style offense... so does Michigan State... just two off the top of my head. This style of offense will work fine once we get talented players. Skip Holtz ran a spread offense... how did that work out? Those teams can recruit and land the players we can only dream about. Exactly. It's not about the scheme, it's about the players... in two years when Taggart has a team full of his recruits, people won't be complaining about a power offense. So far that scheme has given us the 124/124 ranking in total offense last year, and 122/124 this year according to ESPN.http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/team/_/stat/total We have an issue with talent, but not THAT big of an issue... I've never understood why a new coach has to effectively destroy a team to "rebuild it from the ground up." I understand rebuilding with your own recruits, but it doesn't seem like most teams with new coaches take a total nosedive in pretty much every offensive category. If that's CWT's approach, fine. But he'd better get this ship turned around by next year. I can't imagine Harlan hangs on to a coach he didn't pick for a fourth year if he can't crack the top 120 offenses while "rebuilding." You are about to be savagely attacked by the Pro-Taggart crowd. Better put on the body armor. I'm in the pro-Tags crowd, but no savage attacks forthcoming (from me, at least). I just think it's worth pointing out that the total "nosedive" in every offensive category started near the end of 2012, when BJ Daniels went down with his career ending injury. People seem to forget that part. Also, teams with new coaches that you hear about don't miss a beat because they still are able to recruit top tier athletes if they are bad, and many new coaches are there because the prior coach left for a new gig. The ones like us, you don't hear about because you don't follow them and they are otherwise irrelevant. Agree that Taggart probably has another year, if this season turns out to be very similar to last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who'sYourData? Posted October 13, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 410 Content Count: 19,525 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 24 Joined: 09/01/2006 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Sorry, you have to work pretty hard to be 122 of 124 on offense when you get the kind of talent we have for the last five years. You almost have to try to not succeed. Schools that recruit far less talented athletes are achieving far more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted October 13, 2014 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,686 Reputation: 10,904 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted October 13, 2014 This power offense will not work here. Hell, it barely works at Stanford. College football has changed. Most programs are moving away from this offense and moving towards a more up tempo spread attack. We, on the other hand, stick with the 3 yards and a cloud of dust and put up 2 TDs a game. Alabama uses a power, pro-style offense... so does Michigan State... just two off the top of my head. This style of offense will work fine once we get talented players. Skip Holtz ran a spread offense... how did that work out? Those teams can recruit and land the players we can only dream about. Exactly. It's not about the scheme, it's about the players... in two years when Taggart has a team full of his recruits, people won't be complaining about a power offense. So far that scheme has given us the 124/124 ranking in total offense last year, and 122/124 this year according to ESPN.http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/team/_/stat/total We have an issue with talent, but not THAT big of an issue... I've never understood why a new coach has to effectively destroy a team to "rebuild it from the ground up." I understand rebuilding with your own recruits, but it doesn't seem like most teams with new coaches take a total nosedive in pretty much every offensive category. If that's CWT's approach, fine. But he'd better get this ship turned around by next year. I can't imagine Harlan hangs on to a coach he didn't pick for a fourth year if he can't crack the top 120 offenses while "rebuilding." You are about to be savagely attacked by the Pro-Taggart crowd. Better put on the body armor. He's willing to give CWT 3 years to turn things around his way. I don't think many of the "Pro-Taggart crowd" have a huge problem with that ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaUSFBull Posted October 13, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 263 Content Count: 24,750 Reputation: 3,107 Days Won: 87 Joined: 12/15/2009 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Sorry, you have to work pretty hard to be 122 of 124 on offense when you get the kind of talent we have for the last five years. You almost have to try to not succeed. Schools that recruit far less talented athletes are achieving far more. Ok, so CWT has been here a year and a half. If it's the last 5 years, it would seem we have a systemic problem. What's going on with USF? We sure seemed fine until BJ went down. Maybe smazza has been right all along - without a decent QB, we're screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallyBull Posted October 14, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 23 Content Count: 3,685 Reputation: 1,186 Days Won: 14 Joined: 01/19/2011 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Sorry, you have to work pretty hard to be 122 of 124 on offense when you get the kind of talent we have for the last five years. You almost have to try to not succeed. Schools that recruit far less talented athletes are achieving far more. I agree 100%. I'm not pro or anti CWT. I want him to succeed because hiring still another coach would be a big setback for the program. But early returns aren't good. I hope he can turn things around over the remainder of this year and next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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