Triple B Posted October 12, 2014 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,738 Reputation: 10,964 Days Won: 425 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted October 12, 2014 White has to make sure everyone is set before the ball is snapped. He got his butt chewed by CWT on the sidelines for this. Hopefully he learns it. You, sir, have to be mistaken ... We have been told by reliable sources that our head coach NEVER shows any emotion, specifically never chewing someone out when they made a mistake ... Must have been an assistant coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted October 12, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted October 12, 2014 White has to make sure everyone is set before the ball is snapped. He got his butt chewed by CWT on the sidelines for this. Hopefully he learns it. You, sir, have to be mistaken ... We have been told by reliable sources that our head coach NEVER shows any emotion, specifically never chewing someone out when they made a mistake ... Must have been an assistant coach. Only reason he made the mistake in the first place is because Holtz once talked to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 For our presnap shifting? Is it even worth it? I mean, i cant tell if our successful plays are the result of the presnap shifts. It seems more deteimental seeing how some of the guys look confused which results in an illegal shift penalty. Why not just line up where you are suppose to be? The shift helps indicate man vs zone coverage, and where they rotate around... it also helps to see if the LBs shift or not based on likelihood of blitzing. The illegal shift penalty occurred because Taggart was getting the plays in WAY LATE... and they had to hurry up... the WR wasn't quite in position when the ball was snapped... which means the offense didn't have everyone set for one second before the last man started in motion... (he was still getting into position from the huddle) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 White has to make sure everyone is set before the ball is snapped. He got his butt chewed by CWT on the sidelines for this. Hopefully he learns it. Hold on a second...I remember this play clearly and White called for the snap with 1 second on the play clock. His eyes had to be on the click at that point (and the ball). No way that's on him. Correct!! It was actually on Taggart for taking too long to get the play in... and on the WR for not realizing how fast he needed to get set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usfgrad84 Posted October 13, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 246 Content Count: 6,348 Reputation: 662 Days Won: 8 Joined: 05/25/2006 Share Posted October 13, 2014 White has to make sure everyone is set before the ball is snapped. He got his butt chewed by CWT on the sidelines for this. Hopefully he learns it. Hold on a second...I remember this play clearly and White called for the snap with 1 second on the play clock. His eyes had to be on the click at that point (and the ball). No way that's on him. Correct!! It was actually on Taggart for taking too long to get the play in... and on the WR for not realizing how fast he needed to get set. That was the main problem last year. Taggart takes a very long time to get the plays in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarling Bull Posted October 13, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 35 Content Count: 6,574 Reputation: 237 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/19/2006 Share Posted October 13, 2014 So coaching is the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFbulls24 Posted October 13, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 17 Content Count: 1,516 Reputation: 175 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/20/2013 Share Posted October 13, 2014 For our presnap shifting? Is it even worth it? I mean, i cant tell if our successful plays are the result of the presnap shifts. It seems more deteimental seeing how some of the guys look confused which results in an illegal shift penalty. Why not just line up where you are suppose to be? The shift helps indicate man vs zone coverage, and where they rotate around... it also helps to see if the LBs shift or not based on likelihood of blitzing. The illegal shift penalty occurred because Taggart was getting the plays in WAY LATE... and they had to hurry up... the WR wasn't quite in position when the ball was snapped... which means the offense didn't have everyone set for one second before the last man started in motion... (he was still getting into position from the huddle) Yes it helps to see what the defense is in, and maybe once or twice a game create confusion for the defense and allow a FB or TE to get wide open because the Defense loses track of who they're covering. With that being said though, it's not like Mike White is going to audible (Has he ever audibled/Is he allowed to?) after seeing if the D is in man/zone or reading the defense. We don't shift until there are less than 10 seconds on the play clock and snap the ball immediately after it's completed. We do it more than it's needed that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USF_Grouper Posted October 13, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 584 Content Count: 10,369 Reputation: 92 Days Won: 7 Joined: 11/19/2005 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Knowing the defense scheme has value beyond just changing plays. It helps you understand where to look for coverage as you move through your progressions. It helps you predict where a receiver is likely to have an open window. It helps you predict where pressure might come from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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