Bear Posted December 30, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 56 Content Count: 4,432 Reputation: 711 Days Won: 19 Joined: 03/16/2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I don't understand how NOT playing UCF caused the firing of Leavitt, the hiring of Holtz, and being relegated to the AAC? In fact, didn't UCF originally show little interest in playing against us in the years prior? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmhatter Posted December 30, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 576 Content Count: 8,174 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 6 Joined: 09/02/2007 Share Posted December 30, 2013 hilarious we are in the aac for the following reasons: 1. we dont get good tv ratings - even when we were #2 in the country folks in tampa were watching more gators, noles and canes games. 2. we have no history of winning any championships in any league we've ever been in If you don't earn $, you will not be joining P5. We could have had Tom Jurich as AD, he wasn't going to land us in a p5. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Matrix Posted December 30, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 604 Content Count: 16,504 Reputation: 2,952 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted December 30, 2013 hilarious we are in the aac for the following reasons: 1. we dont get good tv ratings - even when we were #2 in the country folks in tampa were watching more gators, noles and canes games. 2. we have no history of winning any championships in any league we've ever been in If you don't earn $, you will not be joining P5. We could have had Tom Jurich as AD, he wasn't going to land us in a p5. The TV ratings for USF vs WVU and Rutgers were good that year we made #2. Some of the highest rated games on ESPN that year. You can reseach it and see for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who'sYourData? Posted December 30, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 410 Content Count: 19,525 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 24 Joined: 09/01/2006 Share Posted December 30, 2013 hilarious we are in the aac for the following reasons: 1. we dont get good tv ratings - even when we were #2 in the country folks in tampa were watching more gators, noles and canes games. 2. we have no history of winning any championships in any league we've ever been in If you don't earn $, you will not be joining P5. We could have had Tom Jurich as AD, he wasn't going to land us in a p5. The TV ratings for USF vs WVU and Rutgers were good that year we made #2. Some of the highest rated games on ESPN that year. You can reseach it and see for yourself. So all we had to do was finish #2 in the nation every year and we'd be in the P5? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Posted December 30, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 56 Content Count: 4,432 Reputation: 711 Days Won: 19 Joined: 03/16/2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 hilarious we are in the aac for the following reasons: 1. we dont get good tv ratings - even when we were #2 in the country folks in tampa were watching more gators, noles and canes games. 2. we have no history of winning any championships in any league we've ever been in If you don't earn $, you will not be joining P5. We could have had Tom Jurich as AD, he wasn't going to land us in a p5. The TV ratings for USF vs WVU and Rutgers were good that year we made #2. Some of the highest rated games on ESPN that year. You can reseach it and see for yourself. So all we had to do was finish #2 in the nation every year and we'd be in the P5? Honestly, I wouldn't complain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliable Source Posted December 30, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 731 Content Count: 10,367 Reputation: 170 Days Won: 40 Joined: 09/15/2008 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I know you're not serious, but it does beg the question, "Why do we follow USF ball teams?" Here's why for me, 1)Because Claire would have a beer ready for me when I arrived at the Empty Keg after morning classes. 2) Because I graduated 2nd in my class in Geology Dept, despite skipping SO MANY classes, but because I had so many grt. professors that I stayed in school.. <that girl who was first hated me> 3) Because I watched the Sun Dome being built as I went to school each day. 4) Because I played ball on those USF fields. 5) Because I waited 28 years for my alma mater to finally field a football team and people actually began to know that there was a major university in Tampa. 6) Because my last quarter(no semesters in those days) was 4 hours of Drawing I , an elective and we had beautiful nude models come every class and pose during a "warm and sticky" Summer quarter. 7) Because the Student Union Bldg got pressure sensitive automatic doors for the handicapped which my dog promptly learned how to use to his advantage. 8) Because there were more beautiful women there than anyplace I had ever seen, before and since, in my life. 9) Because it was USF silly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick1ru2 Posted December 30, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 555 Content Count: 14,415 Reputation: 445 Days Won: 13 Joined: 07/25/2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2013 hilarious we are in the aac for the following reasons: 1. we dont get good tv ratings - even when we were #2 in the country folks in tampa were watching more gators, noles and canes games. 2. we have no history of winning any championships in any league we've ever been in If you don't earn $, you will not be joining P5. We could have had Tom Jurich as AD, he wasn't going to land us in a p5. The TV ratings for USF vs WVU and Rutgers were good that year we made #2. Some of the highest rated games on ESPN that year. You can reseach it and see for yourself. Blip on the radar. P5 conferences are looking at long term ratings that don't go down to zero in bad years or are the same as a Sun Belt team in average years. USF doesn't have the legacy or prestige these conferences want, no pedigree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Matrix Posted December 30, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 604 Content Count: 16,504 Reputation: 2,952 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted December 30, 2013 hilarious we are in the aac for the following reasons: 1. we dont get good tv ratings - even when we were #2 in the country folks in tampa were watching more gators, noles and canes games. 2. we have no history of winning any championships in any league we've ever been in If you don't earn $, you will not be joining P5. We could have had Tom Jurich as AD, he wasn't going to land us in a p5. The TV ratings for USF vs WVU and Rutgers were good that year we made #2. Some of the highest rated games on ESPN that year. You can reseach it and see for yourself. Blip on the radar. P5 conferences are looking at long term ratings that don't go down to zero in bad years or are the same as a Sun Belt team in average years. USF doesn't have the legacy or prestige these conferences want, no pedigree. But they were still some of the highest rated games on ESPN that year. Not bad for a young program like USF. And dont forget, the BIG 12 will be needing two more teams sooner or later. Not sure if UCF and Cincy will get the nod or BYU. Right now, USF is not in any position to expect anything. Maybe if it were 2007 when we had the higher ratings. USF was the hot topic back then in case you forgot. We blew that chance to continue the band wagon effect. I for one, dont think we will ever get that back. The 67K in RJS may never happen again in our lifetime for a USF game. I am thankful to be a part of it and I hope that you were too. If not, than I am sorry you missed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoolyBully Posted December 30, 2013 Group: Bull Backers Topic Count: 194 Content Count: 6,786 Reputation: 864 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/01/2000 Share Posted December 30, 2013 It's where I washed up on shore. The reason I continue to follow USF sports is because I'm an alumnus. That's it. No other justifiable reason. It's not because we win (on the rare occasion) or because of great things in the past (can't come up with any). It's not because I think we're "this close to turning the corner"...having sat through basketball seasons since '90. S'pose we'd put down roots in North Carolina when we got back from overseas; I'd probably be a Wolfpack or 49er fan. The big roulette wheel of life put me here, so that's why I follow* USF. * although it's in the number one slot, I don't follow USF exclusively and to the exclusion of all other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDYZR Posted December 30, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 486 Content Count: 12,475 Reputation: 2,855 Days Won: 25 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted December 30, 2013 IT'S OVER! Pull the plug NOW and CUT OUR LOSSES! USF football will NEVER, EVER, Never, Never, ever... amount to anything! Everyone should just go ahead and pick another LOCAL COLLEGE FOOTBALL team to follow and root for. I know you're not serious, but it does beg the question, "Why do we follow USF ball teams?" I posted the below in a roundball thread, but it's apropos here as well. Why continue to compete at a level which you are not competitive? Why not drop down a level? What's the point? Serious question, not trolling. RPI data tweaked and sorted by conference. Going by AVERAGE RPI, it's pretty clear there are 5 top conferences (even the worst team is still in the 100's). At least the American is in the top 10 of conferences. Our top is good, but our mid and bottom teams need to step up. Best | Worst | Average | Conference 1 | 180 | 65 | Big 103 | 158 | 65 | Big 128 | 136 | 71 | Big East7 | 178 | 83 | PAC4 | 161 | 85 | ACC 12 | 293 | 100 | SEC2 | 299 | 113 | Atlantic 1022 | 264 | 125 | American23 | 318 | 126 | MWC18 | 247 | 132 | WCC 6 | 323 | 153 | Mo. Valley41 | 292 | 157 | MAC63 | 314 | 165 | Horizon70 | 307 | 179 | Sunbelt60 | 305 | 182 | Colonial 34 | 316 | 187 | Big West38 | 325 | 191 | Summit19 | 333 | 196 | Ivy39 | 350 | 197 | CUSA45 | 329 | 202 | MAAC 87 | 328 | 205 | Patriot49 | 330 | 217 | WAC72 | 347 | 224 | Southland157 | 296 | 227 | Big Sky48 | 348 | 234 | Atlantic Sun 83 | 336 | 239 | Northeast121 | 340 | 241 | SWAC57 | 345 | 242 | Ohio Valley191 | 346 | 251 | Big South95 | 344 | 261 | Southern 150 | 339 | 276 | Atlantic East79 | 351 | 285 | MEAC327 | 327 | 327 | Independent Looking at the data, when your BEST team is 191st (Big South) it makes me wonder why they stay in D1. Why not drop down to D2 and be competitive?because it's the only college football team in town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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